What do you think will start the next big war?

[Senhor Perfect]

When I say job I mean full time , without going to school. I started working summers at 14, but I don't think kids should drop out to work full time. There are enough idiots in the world as it is.

 

[Crayo]

I agree with you on the whole work thing but just think about it... If kids were considered adults at a younger age, they would be able to work sooner, move out of their parents house sooner, go to college sooner and retire sooner. People are being forced into waiting into their 70's to retire. Wouldn't you rather retire in your 40's?

So you can start enjoying life at 40? Nope, I agree with what the statuesque is currently. Some of the most crucial years of development physically, mentally, and socially are in the teenage years (14-19).

I think the problem is not enough younger people working which results in older people having to retire later. I don't think having them grow up faster will help that.

 

[catlady]

When I say job I mean full time , without going to school. I started working summers at 14, but I don't think kids should drop out to work full time. There are enough idiots in the world as it is.

I agree with that. Working full time over the summer or part time during school. Either way, if kids graduated at 15, instead of milking the teet as long as they do, I think it would be easier for them to think about college, figure out their lives and grow up faster. i know people younger then me with kids who still act like they are in middle school.

 

[Solidus]

and is there anything more enjoyable than your childhood?

For me, yes. My childhood sucked, the most enjoyable part of my life is still to come.

I still believe in a life is a life

This is somewhat true, only when whatever you choose to do has no negative on anyone else.
A newborn child is a life, but is also a life wasted in the arms of the wrong parents, or teenage parents. There are some exceptions of course, but not often. I feel that teenage pregnancy is severely overlooked as a problem, more of them just means more of the governments budget is wasted, more areas become overcrowded, and kids generally become more stupid (which is already proven).
How can this be prevented though? I have to agree that the famous faces teenagers idolize are partly to blame, and also certain TV shows. Censorship is the only way to block this, which removes a lot of freedom - something humans preach. This will only cause widespread protest though, and maybe even war.
One way or another, war will happen. Look what technological breakthroughs has brought us, this is devolution.

 

[catlady]

So you can start enjoying life at 40? Nope, I agree with what the statuesque is currently. Some of the most crucial years of development physically, mentally, and socially are in the teenage years (14-19).

I think the problem is not enough younger people working which results in older people having to retire later. I don't think having them grow up faster will help that.

Its a double standard though. What kids are exposed to these days, most have the knowledge of an adult by 14. Many of them are having kids before they even graduate high school. I just don't agree with the system. I am not saying you have to start enjoying life after you retire, you can enjoy life now but the way the world is, you have to have money and the younger you are able to have your own income the better off life will be for you. Its hard to be a parent right now because not enough kids are getting jobs before they are 18, other ones go straight to college without even having had a job... I don't know. Alls I am saying is there should be an option, it the kid and the parent agree upon it.

 

[Stopspot]

Its a double standard though. What kids are exposed to these days, most have the knowledge of an adult by 14. Many of them are having kids before they even graduate high school. I just don't agree with the system. I am not saying you have to start enjoying life after you retire, you can enjoy life now but the way the world is, you have to have money and the younger you are able to have your own income the better off life will be for you. Its hard to be a parent right now because not enough kids are getting jobs before they are 18, other ones go straight to college without even having had a job... I don't know. Alls I am saying is there should be an option, it the kid and the parent agree upon it.

Most kids don't have the knowledge of an adult by 14. That is false. A more correct statement would be they think they do. The reason for the larger amount of teenage pregnancies is lack of education on the subject combined with girls thinking it is a fitting teenage rebellion

If they had the knowledge of an adult before 18 they would know the amount of time, money and care that would have to be invested into a child and would realize they are nowhere near capable of providing that to their offspring and would thus postpone having children until they are ready.

 

[catlady]

Prolonging adult hood is never a good thing. You end up with careless and reckless adults. Maybe I am just saying this because I grew up fast but if a boy and girl know how to have sex and enjoy it, they should be able to get jobs. Its like telling a 14 year old kid who already has a baby they can't be an adult yet. Having children between 14 and 19 is way more common then people think.

 

[catlady]

Most kids don't have the knowledge of an adult by 14. That is false. A more correct statement would be they think they do. The reason for the larger amount of teenage pregnancies is lack of education on the subject combined with girls thinking it is a fitting teenage rebellion

If they had the knowledge of an adult before 18 they would know the amount of time, money and care that would have to be invested into a child and would realize they are nowhere near capable of providing that to their offspring and would thus postpone having children until they are ready.

You are correct. They "think" they do. I worded that wrong. Honestly, if they actually put thought into what it takes to have a job, a marriage or kids, they probably wouldn't be having sex at 14... which is basically what you said... So I agree. lol

 

[Senhor Perfect]

Fair enough, but it doesn't make it right, or a smart thing to do.

 

[Solidus]

Having children between 14 and 19 is way more common then people think.

Far too common.

 

[Stopspot]

Prolonging adult hood is never a good thing. You end up with careless and reckless adults. Maybe I am just saying this because I grew up fast but if a boy and girl know how to have sex and enjoy it, they should be able to get jobs. Its like telling a 14 year old kid who already has a baby they can't be an adult yet. Having children between 14 and 19 is way more common then people think.

By law you are legally an adult when you can be tried as one (In Sweden that is at 15) but that does not necessarily mean that a person is mentally prepared to be one, thus they must be eased into adulthood. Summer or part time jobs, drivers license at 18 (In Sweden) access to legal narcotics and alcohol (beer and smokes) at 18 (In Sweden) and the ability to purchase hard liqueur at 20 (In Sweden). It is a system that works well here. We have irresponsible adults and youths yes but overall our kids are well behaved because as they get older you start handing them more and more responsibilities once they prove that they can handle it. Which in my opinion is a safe and smart way to see if your child is ready to be treated as an adult. You act like a kid? Then I'm going to treat you like one. You're able to prove that you can be mature? Okay I'll let you start taking driving classes.

 

[catlady]

Far too common.

Its sad really. My niece is 15 and she's been possibly having sex since she was 12 or 13. I just pray she don't end up pregnant. Its like girls do it to be appealing to guys and guys do it to be cool but as boys become men, they don't want loose girls, they want untouched women.

 

[Stopspot]

Its sad really. My niece is 15 and she's been possibly having sex since she was 12 or 13. I just pray she don't end up pregnant. Its like girls do it to be appealing to guys and guys do it to be cool but as boys become men, they don't want loose girls, they want untouched women.

Sit her down and show her an uncensored video of child birth. That'll scare her straight.

 

[Senhor Perfect]

Sit her down and show her an uncensored video of child birth. That'll scare her straight.

I'm still scarred by watching a live child birth in health class. When my daughter was born I looked at my wife's face until she was out lol.

 

[catlady]

By law you are legally an adult when you can be tried as one (In Sweden that is at 15) but that does not necessarily mean that a person is mentally prepared to be one, thus they must be eased into adulthood. Summer or part time jobs, drivers license at 18 (In Sweden) access to legal narcotics and alcohol (beer and smokes) at 18 (In Sweden) and the ability to purchase hard liqueur at 20 (In Sweden). It is a system that works well here. We have irresponsible adults and youths yes but overall our kids are well behaved because as they get older you start handing them more and more responsibilities once they prove that they can handle it. Which in my opinion is a safe and smart way to see if your child is ready to be treated as an adult. You act like a kid? Then I'm going to treat you like one. You're able to prove that you can be mature? Okay I'll let you start taking driving classes.

I think my biggest problem with it all is that they want to be treated like adults so they start drinking, smoking, having sex at a young age but to them, adulthood is some party. I was never into drinking or drug use or any of that. I was a loner who had few friends because I couldn't deal with the immature thought patterns of the people I went to school with. I think parenting takes more then making sure your kids get good grades in school. They aren't going to learn much about alcohol, sex, or adulthood there... they will only learn how to do things to fit in or be part of a group. Its like they brain wash kids into common thinking so most of them fail at life.