USA vs EU

[Zamorakian]

I'm sorry but I can't believe how dumb this post it. I said he didn't fix anything for a start, but how has he made things worse? He's done nothing to even make things worse. Well, he did make a call to get Osama but yeah that's it. Give me a list of reasons why you should have any troops in Iraq. There is no WMD, none has been found. Why are you still there? Oil. Why do you still need troops in Afghan? You've got the guy you wanted, then leave.

If you actually study Ron Paul, IE, listen to his policies, they would work. The guy is a freaking genius. In 2000 I think he predicted 9/11. He predicted many many many things that have happened. Furthermore, it's okay for US to have thousands of nuclear weapons in hundreds of countries, but if Iraq got one it'd be the end of the world? Nuclear bombs shouldn't exist. What's the point? If America used those 1000+ nuclears, there would be no earth. The planet would implode. It's like sitting on one of those soft blow up chairs in a swimming pool, but holding a can of 1 thousand pins. Drop the can, and the blow up chair pops.

Also, please explain to me how our NHS is "failed"? If a women collapses in the street here, people help. In America, they can get charged $$ for bringing in someone if they don't have insurance. Wtf is that? Adopting our health policy was the best thing America has done. Now you need to take note on our benefit policy too, which is fucked up but a lot less than US.

They're actually helping the afghans, providing food, building schools, and eliminating the talibans aka the ones who's destroying the human rights in Afghanistan.

 

[Crayo]

They're actually helping the afghans, providing food, building schools, and eliminating the talibans who are destroying the human rights.

Oh how I miss the days of naivety.

So you missed the leak from Bradley Manning then? Where they killed random civilians for no reason? The guy who leaked that btw is in prison and was tortured before, yeah, that's so nice of America. Nice job! :

 

[Zamorakian]

Oh how I miss the days of naivety.

So you missed the leak from Bradley Manning then? Where they killed random civilians for no reason? The guy who leaked that btw is in prison and was tortured before, yeah, that's so nice of America. Nice job! :

Bradley Manning is a criminal. He downloaded material from the databases that he had access to and passed it on to WikiLeaks, he got what he deserved.

I never missed it, I saw that helicopter attack in Baghdad, it was wrong and I'm not stating that it was right.

 

[Snowman]

I don't pay much attention to politics in this country because the media and the politicians can't be trusted. If you watched any of the 2008 Election Coverage, then I don't see how you could watch the news after that. They rigged a political election, you can't get much more untrustworthy than that.
So spare yourself the trouble repeating their garbage, Ziggles.

As for the government, it's corrupt beyond belief. You know it, I know it, the world knows it, don't even bother denying it.

(Sorry guys, I usually don't try to be this negative, but with wrestling today and this world we live in, there's not much positivity to be found.)

 

[Crayo]

Bradley Manning is a criminal. He downloaded material from the databases that he had access to and passed it on to WikiLeaks, he got what he deserved.

I never missed it, I saw that helicopter attack in Baghdad, it was wrong and I'm not stating that it was right.

Yeah, he's definitely a criminal for letting us know Americans killed innocent civilians for no reason. By god what a horrible man! I hope he drops the soap.

Let me guess; you're against Wikileaks too? Bush, is that you?

 

[Zamorakian]

Yeah, he's definitely a criminal for letting us know Americans killed innocent civilians for no reason. By god what a horrible man! I hope he drops the soap.

Let me guess; you're against Wikileaks too? Bush, is that you?

Stuff like that should not be leaked, it is a crime and you know it yourself. Even if they raped the innocent civilians it is still a crime to leak these stuff that's my point but what he did was good yet it is a crime.

 

[Crayo]

Stuff like that should not be leaked, it is a crime and you know it yourself. Even if they raped the innocent civilians it is still a crime to leak these stuff that's my point but what he did was good yet it is a crime.

HOW? That is so god damn illogical thinking. You're brainwashed. If I stole the gun off of a murderer and gave it to the police, should I be convicted for stealing? Fuck that. Bradley should be given a fucking medal.

 

[Zamorakian]

HOW? That is so god damn illogical thinking. You're brainwashed. If I stole the gun off of a murderer and gave it to the police, should I be convicted for stealing? F*** that. Bradley should be given a F**cking medal.

Leaking out top-secret files from secret/protected databases is not a crime? Define the word "illogical" please.

 

[Crayo]

Leaking out top-secret files from secret/protected databases is not a crime? Define the word "illogical" please.

The secret files were clips of your army killing innocent civilians. That should remain private? Explain how that's logical. Please.

Imagine how many other times this has happened but wasn't leaked? Thank god for Bradley. If you knew this happened, what would you do? Would you tell people or would you keep it a secret?

I know what I would do.

 

[Zamorakian]

The secret files were clips of your army killing innocent civilians. That should remain private? Explain how that's logical. Please.

Imagine how many other times this has happened but wasn't leaked? Thank god for Bradley. If you knew this happened, what would you do? Would you tell people or would you keep it a secret?

I know what I would do.

He made a good choice but in the same time betrayed the army/country. It is not logical for these clips to remain private but if you're told so then you should follow orders and not do the opposite.

 

[Stopspot]

He made a good choice but in the same time betrayed the army/country. It is not logical for these clips to remain private but if you're told so then you should follow orders and not do the opposite.

Now your thinking almost like Adolf Eichmann Ziggles. It's that kind of thinking of never questioning orders that cause all horrible things all armies do, no matter the country.
It's the kind of logic used by noted nazi officer Adolf Eichmann, the man responsible for organising the moving of jews into ghettos and concentration camps. He was one of few nazis that were sceptical of killing the jews but when asked of if he wanted to handle organising the holocaust he still said yes cause it was his duty to his country and who was he to deny and not question orders.

Before you jump the gun. I am not comparing you to a nazi nor am I comparing the American army to it. I am just saying that kind of thinking has never ended up well down the road historically.

 

[Crayo]

He made a good choice but in the same time betrayed the army/country. It is not logical for these clips to remain private but if you're told so then you should follow orders and not do the opposite.

Answer me this. If Iraq's army was walking down your street where you live in America, and shot 10 of your closest friends for no reason. You wake up the next day and they're dead and you have no idea why. Would you want to know the Iraq army killed them for no reason or would you say to the one Iraqi soldier who has a tape to show you to keep it hidden?

Too many brainwashed hypocrites now'adays. I don't see how anyone can justify Bradley's arrest.

 

[Zamorakian]

Answer me this. If Iraq's army was walking down your street where you live in America, and shot 10 of your closest friends for no reason. You wake up the next day and they're dead and you have no idea why. Would you want to know the Iraq army killed them for no reason or would you say to the one Iraqi soldier who has a tape to show you to keep it hidden?

Too many brainwashed hypocrites now'adays. I don't see how anyone can justify Bradley's arrest.

Thank you for calling me a hypocrite, very nice of you.

By the way I would definitely tell him to release the tape because they killed my closest friend, but in this case they never did, this is a whole new story than a couple of Iraqi soldiers killing my closest friends, I know I'd be angry and all but hey it is still a crime to release private and top secret footage, the guy committed a crime and it is right that he gets punished for it.

 

[Jose Tortilla]

*le Jose Tortilla comes in this thread..

1st page. All jokes and stuff. :laugh:

3rd page. Things are starting to get offensive.. :sad:

5th page. WOW!

 

[Bort]

Fuck politics.