South Park Mafia: Who Killed Butters? [COMPLETED]

[Chris]

Basically from my POV, I was busy and I came back to a tag from Poyser like "are you guys seeing this shit" and it was about this lie Smark said which on my read I thought was obviously just a NAI mistake, not something to be pushed. He stopped doing that when I pointed it out, genuine town course correction or did he only so it bc we weren't buying the lie accusation basically is my dilemma lol

 

[Big Jean Studd]

I initially thought Poyser was being opportunistic on Smark which he admittedly changed course on and got a more grounded case that I agreed with going. It's obviously not outside of his scum range at all but am I just being paranoid there or so you think he's genuine on it

And I didn't think Smark helped with his defense, but I thought he was trying to sell that his vote on post less Brett was risky when it certainly wasn't lol but then he clarified he was talking about "starting a back and forth with Barry" as the thing he'd never do as scum, I am still skeptical that's true

My tldr is smark was byddying me and speaking for me to Barry, and I think poyser point there is ok but I don't really put much stock in smark making a mistake and "lying".

I'm not sure how I even feel about poyser asking me what I thought as my paranoid side is like "is he waiting to push but wants my blessing " which is obviously scummy . But he could also genuinely want my thoughts lol

 

[Chris]

Fwiw as an aside I found Sky's post about "oh the four best players are town.yay" not paranoid enough in the least. Odds are one of us should be scum by pure percentage lol

And on her, I thought she basically cleared Brett as town too easily bc Poyser says he was "most towny" and then I called it out and then she comes back and starts downgrading him lol it feels too on the nose tho

 

[Chris]

My tldr is smark was byddying me and speaking for me to Barry, and I think poyser point there is ok but I don't really put much stock in smark making a mistake and "lying".

I'm not sure how I even feel about poyser asking me what I thought as my paranoid side is like "is he waiting to push but wants my blessing " which is obviously scummy . But he could also genuinely want my thoughts lol

I don't put stock in the lie either that's why I questioned Poyser on it but he also moved away from it. Wish he would have just doubled down bc he was scum and made my life easier lol now I'm conflicted on the reason

 

[Big Jean Studd]

And on her, I thought she basically cleared Brett as town too easily bc Poyser says he was "most towny" and then I called it out and then she comes back and starts downgrading him lol it feels too on the nose tho

I also didn't agree that Brett was the most town unless the crux of that is just intro based . Which I do agree w Poy Poy and said it myself that Brett's intro was not his patented 2x scum garbage intro lol

 

[Big Jean Studd]

I don't put stock in the lie either that's why I questioned Poyser on it but he also moved away from it. Wish he would have just doubled down bc he was scum and made my life easier lol now I'm conflicted on the reason

Yeh I hear you lol

 

[Chris]

Yeh I hear you lol

Also I don't really have any reason to read you town either fwiw, don't recall if I've stated that yet but it's mostly bc I'm just waiting if anything ever sticks out one way or another, so far no.

I don't wanna vote booty tho and we already know his claim so I feel like your energy could be used elsewhere unless you just need him to post more to verify your thoughts which fair enough..that's how I feel about Smark and Sky rn lol

 

[Chris]

I think the Barry push is fruitless too but I can't discourage it in as much good faith when I admit his play has still been kind of erratic, but it's screaming town Barry to me

 

[Big Jean Studd]

Also I don't really have any reason to read you town either fwiw, don't recall if I've stated that yet but it's mostly bc I'm just waiting if anything ever sticks out one way or another, so far no.

I don't wanna vote booty tho and we already know his claim so I feel like your energy could be used elsewhere unless you just need him to post more to verify your thoughts which fair enough..that's how I feel about Smark and Sky rn lol

I agree with most of this

 

[Chris]

@Poyser @Brett

I don't think I ever got added to your scum chat for last game. What communcation was there regarding Brett's entrance? Did Poyser make it known it was bad and you'd have to dig yourself or what

 

[Chris]

This may not be related to the Smark shit. But I am feeling town with Barry. Reason being he's been voted out either first or second the two games I played with him both times led by Jean. If he's scum there's zero way he sends a fluff vote out against the guy who typically is leading witch hunts against him, imo it's Barry just throwing some shit on the wall to see what sticks and to start movement.

As far as the smark shit, I think bro just talks a lot and naturally is going to stand on what he says even if it's wrong or untrue. I can't read it as a lie, because I don't think he even believes he was lying or knew he was.

The one thing I find bizarre is the immediate teaming with smark and jean. That's the only thing I've read from any of it. Seems like either could be using the other as a shield, but that's a pipe theory for now.

Also for Brett. This is very early so I'm not coming at your for changing your read on Barry or anything, but curious why you also don't think he's similarly just throwing shit out with Booty? I don't feel I get your Grim push from your POV at all so any better understanding on why you're on him pls

 

[Lethal]

Sorry guys I knocked out. Lots to catch up on

 

[Lethal]

Town reads so far

Chris
Brett (altho trending down)
Poyser
Jean

Strong core

And don't ask for reasons please. Mostly it's either vibes or I saw a couple of posts I liked but have forgotten which

These were the first posts where I left off. I’m baffled by the logic here. List them town, but then signpost about not asking for reasons. Vibes and conveniently forgetting said posts are a red flag

 

[Chris]

I think it's okay to give town vibes without strong reasons this early, I get why feeling the need to explain it in the second post gives pause tho

It'd be welcome if you gave your vibe reads as well, I don't need in depth reasoning right away, just a general feeling of where you stand. Rn I've got "potentially sus of Sky" but just based off that last post. What are the lethal vibes screaming rn

 

[Chris]

Vibes are great, you guys just gotta realize arguing them for pages doesn't help anyone lol don't look for reasons that aren't there, just say it's pinging you but you can't put your finger on why exactly. The only people that don't have vibes are scum since they know alignments