South Park Mafia: Who Killed Butters? [COMPLETED]

[Poyser]

@Poyser do you know what troop gave you or nah

i know what he targeted with me yeah, thats why i was so curious to ask why he chose me lol

his explanation kinda makes sense, just kinda odd he would target someone he clearly doesnt like

 

[Chris]

Cause I’ve never done it in the entire time I’ve ever played mafia. As someone that’s been in a chat with me you know I’m deathly afraid of too much attention specially on day one you know this. If I’m going to go through that kind of means it better have something that can actually be measurable and quantifiable meaning a Lynch if I can’t even do anything with this wagon for 48 hours, it’s pointless for me to draw that attention to myself. Especially when it’s a pressure wagon. If I’m going to as you guys put it ride jeans dick it’s gonna be with an actual case that he has meat on not just well Let’s see how he handles some votes lol

I mean if you are scum I assume your thought process is that you thought it was a safe play and it turned out to not be, scum rarely wants targets on their back but still manage to get them

 

[Poyser]

What was your shade on me @Poyser ?
All I saw was the Terrence and Phillip quip

yes, i said it sounded like you

 

[Brett]

Cause I’ve never done it in the entire time I’ve ever played mafia. As someone that’s been in a chat with me you know I’m deathly afraid of too much attention specially on day one you know this. If I’m going to go through that kind of means it better have something that can actually be measurable and quantifiable meaning a Lynch if I can’t even do anything with this wagon for 48 hours, it’s pointless for me to draw that attention to myself. Especially when it’s a pressure wagon. If I’m going to as you guys put it ride jeans dick it’s gonna be with an actual case that he has meat on not just well Let’s see how he handles some votes lol

Kind of WIFOM, but using this "you know me and KNOW I would do this as scum" always feels so disingenuous in my eyes. Your basically acknowledging how you would play and why you would assume people would suspect you if you play that way, so having that awareness should lead you to not act that way. I read shit like this as scum more than I do town.

 

[Barry Poppins]

Poyser: As of right now, we had a small blip of play out of Poyser. I found his play to be significantly different to that of his game as scum that I saw. He seems very bloodhoundy, searching for scum as opposed to poisoning the well and seeing what sticks. Last game he would constantly throw his vote out to poison a bit, yet I don't think he placed an early fluff vote (could be wrong here)

Troop: Not too dissimilar from any of the games he's played (all as town I believe). Typical D1's for Troop are pretty absent. So it's been a treat having him play and be pretty active. Could that right there be a tell that he's scum? Idk, nully. But he's in a similar position to Booty where they are both inexperienced and I've only seen either play as town and for my money, they are both playing as they have played with no real deviation.

Smark: Similar play to last game, he is an active mf when he's active and dipping into theories and chasing after things he catches. I don't think we can read him sharing the info with us as town, as last game (I can't remember who) didn't share info until they were pressed about it and they ended up getting mislynched for it IIRC. But he is playing a similar scum hunting game as we saw last game, maybe the only difference is he's backpacked a bit rather than chasing his own theories and hell the one independent theory was an inaccuracy (not calling it a lie).

Chris: Anchoring conversations, has had a lot of independent theories and mentions. Only played one game with Chris and he was town and I'm feeling a very similar vibe to this. I really don't have much else from his posts, very vanilla. Could be town or just smart scum.

Sky: Sky is kind of in that Juice and Barry category for me, where I do not want us falling for easy bait on "weird" play. I led a mislynch on juice because of weird and it's sat with me. While this presents as a good shield for Sky, Juice and Barry, I truly feel like scum games from them would appear un-weird, which would then have me throw out my red flag. So Sky playing weird is almost par for the course / townie to me.

Barry: I personally am not the biggest fan of the hard reading of Booty's interactions. I think it's such a nothing burger and almost intellectually dishonest to be saying that Bootys vibes off and he's not playing the same game as he always does. All the games I've played with Barry (he has been town), he typically plays from the outside. Does some troll votes and then when he gets pressed goes "let's all be friends, we shouldn't argue. It's all just a game" , him almost goading Booty into personal stuff ("your aura is off") just feels so different for him. And to my earlier point, this doesn't feel like weird play, it's normal but just feels incorrect.

Booty: Definitely have said what I said about Booty. I have no idea how he would play as scum, so I am just going to naturally read him as town. I 100% believe his role claim but I just don't know if it is town or scum.

Wang: Playing from the outside, not getting in the weeds too too much. Mathematically it would be insane for Wang to have rolled scum in 3 of 4 games, but I can't help but feel like this game isn't too dissimilar from his D1's as scum.

Jean: I really have an impossible time reading Jean. The game I played town with him, I basically just went off the fact we had both been teamed up as scum the time before and it'd be unlikely for either of us to be scum again. Took that gamble and it paid off. Last game while he was indy, I legit was not sure he was until it was time to kill him. So that MF is good at playing the role and not appearing out of the norm. I may go back and read our game as scum together to see how he played D1, just for intel. But I just think he's incredibly savvy and intelligent to play differently as scum or the same or WIFOM intensifies. I'd say I'm null on Jean as of rn.

If there's anything actually intellectually dishonest, it's the fact that you're framing my suspicion of Booty as me trying to bait him when he asked me point blank why I was voting him, and I gave him reasons. Everyone else wants to call it "grasping at straws", when it's clear I feel something is off about him. Neither is saying that Booty feels different this game being personal.

I'm not sure why you're framing it this way, if it's to try and sus me down the line, or if you're just under some misapprehension about all I've written so far.

Call me bunny-ears or dolphin-theory all one likes, but I just really don't like the framing of this read.

 

[Poyser]

Cause I’ve never done it in the entire time I’ve ever played mafia. As someone that’s been in a chat with me you know I’m deathly afraid of too much attention specially on day one you know this. If I’m going to go through that kind of means it better have something that can actually be measurable and quantifiable meaning a Lynch if I can’t even do anything with this wagon for 48 hours, it’s pointless for me to draw that attention to myself. Especially when it’s a pressure wagon. If I’m going to as you guys put it ride jeans dick it’s gonna be with an actual case that he has meat on not just well Let’s see how he handles some votes lol

Im confused, what is it that you've supposedly never done as mafia? You're acting like you knew it would draw attention to yourself ahead of time, which clearly isn't true or you wouldn't have done it

from your pov, it was probably an easy vote that didn't mean much.

like if i follow what you're saying here, you are basically saying you would never do anything as mafia, which again is just clearly not true

 

[Tremendez]

Kind of WIFOM, but using this "you know me and KNOW I would do this as scum" always feels so disingenuous in my eyes. Your basically acknowledging how you would play and why you would assume people would suspect you if you play that way, so having that awareness should lead you to not act that way. I read shit like this as scum more than I do town.

If you don’t acknowledge how some people play, you’re doing a disservice to your ability to read them. You have to factor in things like that and I’m not saying you have to read me town, but if you’re someone like him who’s been in a mafia chat with me he knows how nervous I get when interacting with large groups of people and doing back-and-forth on day one.

 

[King Kong Booty]

yes, i said it sounded like you

Yeah I didn’t respond because I have no idea what they represent in this game hence why it would matter if they sounded like me or not.

 

[Poyser]

@Chris do you have anybody you're sus of other than sky? My only real concern for you atm is you seem to be good guying everyone and sky is a pretty easy target (even if i do agree with it)

 

[Brett]

If you don’t acknowledge how some people play, you’re doing a disservice to your ability to read them. You have to factor in things like that and I’m not saying you have to read me town, but if you’re someone like him who’s been in a mafia chat with me he knows how nervous I get when interacting with large groups of people and doing back-and-forth on day one.

Fair is fair, selling yourself short is very Blaze-ian of you. You were group leader all last game and for all intents and purposes played very well as the main character.

 

[Tremendez]

Im confused, what is it that you've supposedly never done as mafia? You're acting like you knew it would draw attention to yourself ahead of time, which clearly isn't true or you wouldn't have done it

from your pov, it was probably an easy vote that didn't mean much.

like if i follow what you're saying here, you are basically saying you would never do anything as mafia, which again is just clearly not true

You had already voted me for the supposed listing my reason right so I already had a little bit of a spot light there and then I went toe to toe with Barry for several pages. Yes, I very much knew that I was gonna draw attention.

Every vote is an easy vote when there’s no majority vote lol. Which I admitted in my entire reasoning for placing the vote. I wouldn’t have voted him if there was a majority vote because I don’t have enough on him to vote.

And yes, you’ve been mafia chats with me. You should know it is.

 

[Chris]

@Chris do you have anybody you're sus of other than sky? My only real concern for you atm is you seem to be good guying everyone and sky is a pretty easy target (even if i do agree with it)

You were one for Smark earlier I would say but you didn't double down or anything so not as much. I would say Wang and troop haven't given me reasons either I guess unless you factor in roles. Mostly interested in town reads on D1 and who I can mentally rule out, last game I played I was laughing about how everyone was town to me D1 so I just ranked most to least towny for the moment lol

 

[Chris]

And I'll be honest I softened on Sky myself but gun to the head she'd still be my vote. Can't do much more with it til she gets back on and responds tho

 

[Chris]

You were one for Smark earlier I would say but you didn't double down or anything so not as much. I would say Wang and troop haven't given me reasons either I guess unless you factor in roles. Mostly interested in town reads on D1 and who I can mentally rule out, last game I played I was laughing about how everyone was town to me D1 so I just ranked most to least towny for the moment lol

To clarify you didn't double down on the reasons I thought the Smark push were opportunistic, the current push feels more based in logic

 

[Brett]

If there's anything actually intellectually dishonest, it's the fact that you're framing my suspicion of Booty as me trying to bait him when he asked me point blank why I was voting him, and I gave him reasons. Everyone else wants to call it "grasping at straws", when it's clear I feel something is off about him. Neither is saying that Booty feels different this game being personal.

I'm not sure why you're framing it this way, if it's to try and sus me down the line, or if you're just under some misapprehension about all I've written so far.

Call me bunny-ears or dolphin-theory all one likes, but I just really don't like the framing of this read.

Hard pushing Booty suspicion off of purely ~vibes~ and former game comparison when he only played D1 last time and is inexperienced just feels fraudulent. Don't think it's so out of bounds to not call you out for that. But fine let's do a booty vote, I just will need you to be the last to vote for him just to see somethin