Q & A with Vince McMahon

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The Hollywood Reporter: How has your business changed since the first WrestleMania?

Vince McMahon: WrestleMania is not just national but international. We have grown into stadiums. It's built into the lexicon now not just of Americana but almost every place. So the business has changed, but it has always been our Super Bowl, Emmys, Oscars, World Series.

THR: WWE has been a pioneer in migrating content across multiple platforms. How diversified are you now?

McMahon: There is no entertainment company in the world that is in every media form the way we are. We distribute our own music, and musical acts that associate with us are extraordinary, from AC/DC to an act we're breaking. We're also in the film business -- not just with feature-length releases but also DVD. We have 21 hours of TV in the U.S. alone every week when you add in Spanish-language and reruns, plus we are on-demand. Our shows, of course, also put us in the live-event business. We have our merchandising and licensing, from toys, video games, apparel, books -- you name it. And we publish magazines in English, Spanish, German, French. We are also online with our Web site and e-commerce, and we are on digital mobile services. Whether it's Disney or anyone else, no one does it like we do.

THR: Some have said your TV ratings were a bit weaker than hoped for in the past few weeks. Is that a cause for concern?

McMahon: Quite frankly our TV ratings have been very good. We averaged over a 4, I think, three weeks ago. Last week and the week before it was a bit less so because of a number of factors: how many people watched TV and one-off events. What you have to look at is our overall reach in the course of a week. On TV, we reach over 15 million people each and every week, 52 weeks a year.

THR: How has the success of UFC and other mixed martial arts programming impacted you?

McMahon: Most people thought at one point that we would be competitors. But it turns out they are not competition to us at all, or hardly at all. They are sport, we are entertainment; it's a huge difference. The revenue they have cut into is that of boxing.

THR: Any concern about TNA Wrestling, which has had lower ratings on Spike but is another organization that competes for your audience?

McMahon: My concern with TNA is not in terms of competition. My concern with TNA is that they are TV-14, and we are PG. They have to change with the times. I think some of the things they do on television are reprehensible, but it is a TV-14 rating. That's the only bone I have to pick with them. Their TV ratings are a fraction of ours.

THR: But you recently had an episode of "Raw" where one of your champions, HHH, went to his WrestleMania opponent Randy Orton's house with a sledgehammer. That is OK to show?

McMahon: Right. What we try to do in situations like that is use things that you can't find around the house. You will never see us use a baseball bat. You don't find folding metal chairs around the house. We are very selective. You can go up to the line. It's storytelling; that's how our business thrives. If you have well-defined characters and put them in the right story line against other characters, people care about their welfare.

THR: How many features and direct-to-DVD releases should we expect each year under WWE Films" new deal with Fox?

McMahon: We would do two to three theatricals a year. That way you can really key on your projects. And we would maybe do six to seven direct-to-DVD titles as a max. It's a natural extension to what we do. We have already developed characters for our audience. John Cena's film "12 Rounds" comes out Friday. He has been built as a character in WWE; he is part of our intellectual property. Here we have a built-in advantage. Nobody else in Hollywood has that. When he goes on "The Tonight Show," he can talk about WWE and "12 Rounds." And we can turn our global promotional machine on to promote the film across our various platforms.

THR: Have you made profits in film?

McMahon: Yes, we are profitable. We had one film that was not profitable at all: Stone Cold Steve Austin's "The Condemned." There are a lot of reasons for it, none of them relating to Steve. Notwithstanding that setback, we have made money off "The Marine" (with Cena) and "See No Evil" (with WWE superstar Kane).

THR: What is the biggest non-U.S. market for you, and where do you see the biggest growth opportunity?

McMahon: Outside the U.S., the U.K. is the largest market. Europe, including U.K., probably accounts for about 70% of our international business. We are also in Australia and Japan. Our biggest potential growth market is China; we are in three or four provinces there. We are growing our base that way -- brick by brick, just like we built the United States back in the syndication day.

THR: There has been talk that Mickey Rourke will be in Houston for WrestleMania 25. How key are such celebrity tie-ins to broadening your audience?

McMahon: We will have Kid Rock doing a medley of his tunes at WrestleMania. The lead singer of the Pussycat Dolls will sing "America the Beautiful." Mickey Rourke is going to be, in all likelihood, in attendance. And if you have heard what (WWE superstar) Chris Jericho has said, he is likely to slap Mickey right in the face. That could be interesting television. Sometimes such stuff does broaden our audience in terms of people talking about the event. But some of our highest (PPV) buys have been with our talent as the only celebrities. You have to keep things organic in deciding when to do this. You can't just reach out and use an outside celebrity. That can feel artificial.

THR: You have an Indian superstar, the Great Khali. A lot of entertainment companies are trying to develop regional content and use regional stars. How key is that for WWE?

McMahon: It's not necessarily important. The reason is that I like to say we are America's greatest export. The WWE just smacks of fun; it smacks of freedom of expression. It's like the old Wild West days. It's outrageous but within good taste. When we go to another country, they don't want to see their own stuff. Often there is local stuff. But they want to see, in essence, Hollywood. They want to see the real deal. So it doesn't really matter whether or not you have a Chinese star or Korean star; they want to see WWE stars. Now, if you do have a WWE star who is indigenous like Khali in India, all the better. But they would judge Khali based on any other top guy.

That entire part in bold made me laugh for some reason. Also, isn't busting open an 100 year old dude, and beating down a woman reprehensible?
 

Airfixx

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Are TNA really doing anything worse than WWE didn't do during the attitude days?

The suggestion that WWE aren't so reprihensable becasue they develope their characters more/better is a bit thin tbhonest.
 

MikeRaw

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Ha, I'm not sur what TNA is doing on TV right now, but I haven't heard anything of it being really bad? Wanna fill me in?
Vince had almost naked women on TV all the time, girls like Sable, Torrie and Trish were his "slaves", he made out with about every diva, had guys stunning their boss, etc, and he calls TNA reprehensible?
What the fuck? Considering that was WWE's (arguably) best period, how is what TNA is doing so bad?

As for the rest of the interview, ya, I saw it this morning. Nothing really new, but thanks for posting.
 

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Calling TNA reprehensible is fucking childish man. Vince needs to learn he doesn't set 'the line' of what is reasonable and what is not.

Just to elaborate on Mike's point, WWE had no less than two women go topless on seperate occasions during the attitude era and although I don't watch TNA religiously I've never seen anything as extreme as that on any of their shows. Honestly, sometimes Vince just seems so fucking petulant.
 

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If you re-read what he said he is in fact saying that TNA is NOW a TV-14 show and that they need to get with the program if they want to broaden their audience base. Pretty sensible business advice if you ask me. He is basically saying that the E used to do those things but now they're changing their product to get more fans. I wouldn't take that as a jab at TNA. I did chuckle at him saying that TNA's ratings are a fraction of the E's, he treats them like an adopted slave child, like they really don't matter (which they don't).
 

Evil Austin

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no but guys he was saying that they should get with the times. He never said it wouldn't work, he never denied doing TV 14+ things himself he just states that this time and viewers want the PG 13 things and Cena target audience. That's what he and the WWE are aiming for in the 2003+ era and he was just telling TNA that he thinks that should change too.

Edit - Snacks said it better then I did.
 

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If you re-read what he said he is in fact saying that TNA is NOW a TV-14 show and that they need to get with the program if they want to broaden their audience base. Pretty sensible business advice if you ask me. He is basically saying that the E used to do those things but now they're changing their product to get more fans. I wouldn't take that as a jab at TNA. I did chuckle at him saying that TNA's ratings are a fraction of the E's, he treats them like an adopted slave child, like they really don't matter (which they don't).

no but guys he was saying that they should get with the times. He never said it wouldn't work, he never denied doing TV 14+ things himself he just states that this time and viewers want the PG 13 things and Cena target audience. That's what he and the WWE are aiming for in the 2003+ era and he was just telling TNA that he thinks that should change too.

Edit - Snacks said it better then I did.

You guys are missing the point.

This:

McMahon: My concern with TNA is not in terms of competition. My concern with TNA is that they are TV-14, and we are PG. They have to change with the times. I think some of the things they do on television are reprehensible, but it is a TV-14 rating. That's the only bone I have to pick with them. Their TV ratings are a fraction of ours.

is probably one of the biggest most hypocritcal, two-faced things ever spoken. This coming from a guy who had HHH pretend to fuck a corpse on live television.

Fortunately for Vince he's discovered that the rest of the public is just like the majority of his fans, they don't recall anything that happened more than six months ago.
 

MikeRaw

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Ya, Austina and SNACKZ, I get what you're saying. That seems reasonable, but as others have pointed out, Vince did say it was reprehensible. It's not the friendly, business advice you make it out to be. It's just Vince being a hypocrite, and condemning someone else, even when he did the same thing.
 

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You guys are missing the point.

This:



is probably one of the biggest most hypocritcal, two-faced things ever spoken. This coming from a guy who had HHH pretend to fuck a corpse on live television.

Fortunately for Vince he's discovered that the rest of the public is just like the majority of his fans, they don't recall anything that happened more than six months ago.

I'm sure Vince finds some of his past decisions to be reprehensible. He's talking about now, not then. If he would have said "some of the things TNA does is way beyond anything we have ever done and I find it reprehensible" THEN we could call it a lie, a jab at TNA, or hypocritical statement.

And another thing - why do you always have to come off as the all knowing guy here - saying we don't remember anything that has happened more than 6 months ago. Everyone takes things differently so you should be easy sometimes MS adn let people post their opinions WITHOUT trying to make them feel like idiots for thinking differently from you, kay? gr8!
 

MikeRaw

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I'm sure Vince finds some of his past decisions to be reprehensible. He's talking about now, not then. If he would have said "some of the things TNA does is way beyond anything we have ever done and I find it reprehensible" THEN we could call it a lie, a jab at TNA, or hypocritical statement.

And another thing - why do you always have to come off as the all knowing guy here - saying we don't remember anything that has happened more than 6 months ago. Everyone takes things differently so you should be easy sometimes MS adn let people post their opinions WITHOUT trying to make them feel like idiots for thinking differently from you, kay? gr8!

Kinda off topic here, but just in case you're wondering why your post says "Edited by MikeRaw", it's cause when I went to quote you, I accidentally hit the edit button next to it.
 

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I'm sure Vince finds some of his past decisions to be reprehensible.

The guy still says he liked the Katie Vick skit. I think it's safe to say there is nothing he has ever done that he would lable as reprehensible.

The fact is that Vince didn't say: "TNA are doing some of the more risky TV-14 stuff that we did a few years ago, which some people find reprehensible", he said that he personally thinks some of these TV-14 angles are reprehensible, which is flagrant hypocrisy.
 

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I'm sure Vince finds some of his past decisions to be reprehensible.

Which is why he has no business calling anyone else out on being reprehensible. Especially given if the current television market was more in demand for mature oriented programming, Vince would be giving them that instead. It's all about ratings. He's lambasting TNA for going for a more mature stance on programming but if that's what was in he'd be there too. Which is also why it's hypocritical.

And another thing - why do you always have to come off as the all knowing guy here - saying we don't remember anything that has happened more than 6 months ago.

I said the average fan, not you and I. The 16 year old guys who cheer for John Cena and believe Randy Orton is 'a viper'. Blaze without a PC is a good analogy. They're the ones that don't remember what happened six months ago. They're the ones who saw the WM 20 package on TV and didn't notice anything missing despite the fact that they watched it themselves. And they're not alone, most of the planet wouldn't turn around to Vince and say 'You're the one who brought wrestling like this to the mainstream how can you call anyone reprehensible?' because they either A, just plain don't know or B, don't remember that it was him who did it.

Everyone takes things differently so you should be easy sometimes MS adn let people post their opinions WITHOUT trying to make them feel like idiots for thinking differently from you, kay? gr8!

People can have their opinions. But if they're using faulty logic to arrive at their conclusion then I'll point it out. It's no less than I'd expect.
 

Great One

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Pretty sensible business advice if you ask me. He is basically saying that the E used to do those things but now they're changing their product to get more fans.
Even though they had much more fans when they use to do the same thing(s).
 

Hometown Kid

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Vince is a hypocrite. You don't have to go back to Katie Vick to find something that could be considered horrible in WWE programming. Just look at a 60 year old busted open, a grown man DDT'ing a woman, and then forcing himself on her kissing her unconscious body.

What's most laughable is him defending the Trips home invasion storyline. "You don't find folding chairs or sledgehammers at home" so it's okay. Who the heck doesn't have a folding chair in their house!? And i'm sure there are more than a few homes with sledgehammers in them as well.