MVP vs Regal?

[SnackZ]

I stopped reading after this, which is sad, really, cause it looked like you may have had some good points. If you're referring to the part about 15 posts ago, where I said 'this will just leave him the same as he is, maybe even set him back further', that was many posts ago, and didn't even say it would definately set him back. As you can see though, I've made about 3 posts since then explaining that I know it won't hurt him, it's more that I was just hopeful after the last little while that he'd finally make the jump out of the midcard now. As for the second par tthat I quoted, no, I'm not ignoring that. This tells me you didn't actually take the effort to read the posts. Try it. You'll see I've said many times that this helps Regal. Here, I'll even show you an example of when I said it, from my previous post...


Seeing as it's too hard to understand, and I've said the same thing in plenty of posts, I can't say it anymore... Just go look at Soulpower's post. That one basically sums up my feelings on this... Here's what SP posted:


Really not hard to grasp.

How you and Soulpower fail to see this as ELEVATING his career is beyond me. Regal is a PROVEN guy who generates massive amounts of heat and who delivers in the ring with the best of them. MVP came over from Smackdown JUST as he had turned face, which wasn't even a full blown face turn, it was a kinda is he or isn't he a face. Throwing him right into the Orton mix was just to show the fans where they wanted MVP to be situated on the Raw card. Now that they have ESTABLISHED that he is a FACE they are going to give him the time and opportunity to GROW as a FACE, as a PERFORMER, its called character development. He may not be in feud with a TOP HEEL but he is in a feud with a person who WILL elevate his stock within the company. It's basically the same thing they are doing with Morrison on Smackdown by giving him the Jericho rub to ESTABLISH that the E wants Morrison as a face.

Like you said "Really not hard to grasp".

 

[Soulpower]

How you and Soulpower fail to see this as ELEVATING his career is beyond me. Regal is a PROVEN guy who generates massive amounts of heat and who delivers in the ring with the best of them.

While I agree with this, the fact is that Regal has not been relevant on RAW for the past couple of months, so MVP feuding with him will NOT elevate him at all. Again, it will make for some very good matches, it will help MVP to improve in the ring, but it won't make him any more popular with the fans than he is at the moment.

 

[SnackZ]

How you and Soulpower fail to see this as ELEVATING his career is beyond me. Regal is a PROVEN guy who generates massive amounts of heat and who delivers in the ring with the best of them.

While I agree with this, the fact is that Regal has not been relevant on RAW for the past couple of months, so MVP feuding with him will NOT elevate him at all. Again, it will make for some very good matches, it will help MVP to improve in the ring, but it won't make him any more popular with the fans than he is at the moment.

SP?? Did someone hack your account?? This cannot be the intelligent SP I am normally akin to hearing.
How is being in a feud with someone who CAN generate the amount of heat that Regal can not make him more popular with the fans??? You have to look at this from the perspective of the E marketing to ALL fans, not just the IWC, the smarks who know it all, they are going for the people who are still marks. Regal comes out and talks BS to the crowd, MVP comes out and defends crowd, instant cheers, instant popularity. Continue that for a few weeks and then its an easy recipe, one that the E has followed before. Then, AFTER this initial marketing push the SMARKS and IWC will then be praising MVP for all of his improvements in the ring and being able to work a variety of matches with multiple in ring types, ie; Benjamin, Hardy, Regal (highflyer, matt technician, rugged impact/tough) and begging for the E to put MVP in the ME scene. But by that time he will actually DESERVE it. Got it?

 

[MikeRaw]

SP?? Did someone hack your account?? This cannot be the intelligent SP I am normally akin to hearing.
How is being in a feud with someone who CAN generate the amount of heat that Regal can not make him more popular with the fans??? You have to look at this from the perspective of the E marketing to ALL fans, not just the IWC, the smarks who know it all, they are going for the people who are still marks. Regal comes out and talks BS to the crowd, MVP comes out and defends crowd, instant cheers, instant popularity. Continue that for a few weeks and then its an easy recipe, one that the E has followed before. Then, AFTER this initial marketing push the SMARKS and IWC will then be praising MVP for all of his improvements in the ring and being able to work a variety of matches with multiple in ring types, ie; Benjamin, Hardy, Regal (highflyer, matt technician, rugged impact/tough) and begging for the E to put MVP in the ME scene. But by that time he will actually DESERVE it. Got it?

Few things...
-A feud with Regal will have great matches, yes, probably some of the best in a while, but it wont' really help to improve MVP's ring skills. His ring skills are already better than the majority of main eventers, and even midcarders, in the WWE.
-MVP has alreayd proven he can get over, and doesn't need Regal to get heat in order for him to get over. It'll help, yes, but he can still get over without a guy getting heat. Besides, if he needed to work against a guy who can draw heat, his little feud with Legacy and Orton would've done the job quite nicely.
-You don't think putting MVP in the main event scene would appeal to normal fans? Lol.

Now that they have ESTABLISHED that he is a FACE they are going to give him the time and opportunity to GROW as a FACE, as a PERFORMER, its called character development. He may not be in feud with a TOP HEEL but he is in a feud with a person who WILL elevate his stock within the company. It's basically the same thing they are doing with Morrison on Smackdown by giving him the Jericho rub to ESTABLISH that the E wants Morrison as a face.

No offense to Regal, but he's no Chris Jericho. It should've been the other way around, actually. Morrison should be feuding with a Regal type, while MVP vs Jericho would be the type of feud I'm talking about that MVP needs. Like I said, I know MVP can't be in the title picture full time, but after his stuff with Legacy, he should've stuck in the main event type area. Just below the title picture. Feuding with a Jericho level guy would be ideal for MVP. Regal, as good as he is, is just a notch below it. The way I see it is this...
Tier 1 main event (and usually title picture):Orton, Edge, cena, Batista, triple H, Taker, Michaels, etc
Tier 2 main event: Jericho, Punk, Rey Mysterio, etc
Midcard: MVP (current), Regal, Kennedy, Benjamin, etc

All I'm saying is, this was a good oppurtunity to fill the hole in Tier 1, seeing as there's injuries, BUT, that's pretty unrealistic. So, if he has to have feuds to keep his momentum going in the meantime, it should be with a Jericho type guy, who is a bit above Regal. It'd be a step up, but not a huge one. That's what he should be doing. He's been battling on the same level now for years, with the Kennedy, Regal, Benjamin, R-Truth type guys. This Regal feud isn't a step down, it's just more of the same, instead of elevating.

 

[SnackZ]

I'll hit each of these individually since I have the time right now to do so.

Few things...
-A feud with Regal will have great matches, yes, probably some of the best in a while, but it wont' really help to improve MVP's ring skills. His ring skills are already better than the majority of main eventers, and even midcarders, in the WWE.

MVP's in ring skills are NOT already better than the majority of the main eventers on the E. He still lacks proper execution on grappling, selling his opponents moves properly and getting the crowd on his side (except for that 'balling' thing he does). Being in the ring with someone with the skillset of Regal WILL improve his in ring skills TREMENDOUSLY.

-MVP has alreayd proven he can get over, and doesn't need Regal to get heat in order for him to get over. It'll help, yes, but he can still get over without a guy getting heat. Besides, if he needed to work against a guy who can draw heat, his little feud with Legacy and Orton would've done the job quite nicely.

Getting him OVER as a FACE is EXACTLY what that mini feud did (which is what I stated in a previous post. That was done SOLELY for the purpose of making it a known FACT that he is a face now. If the E would have continued that feud with Orton, one of 2 things woudl have happened. Either he would have been beaten by Orton (who CANNOT legitimately lose a feud to MVP right now) and he would have been down to midcard or lower status. The crowd still loves Orton whether he is heel or not and MVP would not have gotten a proper rub from that feud right now. The other thing that could have happened is MVP dominating Orton and making Orton look like a fool which then in turn completely shits on the E's push of Orton. Of course with MVP's mic skills he can get the crowd into things but without a proper heel he will end up being corny like Cena is when not with a proper heel (ie; his Swagger promo).

-You don't think putting MVP in the main event scene would appeal to normal fans? Lol.

No, not right now. The guy was just on Smackdown as a HEEL who was inbetween roles. Just throwing him into the ME scene would not make sense, even to the most clueless fans. True fans who watch Raw, SD and ECW would have been like "wtf? why is this guy fighting Orton, who did he beat to get there???"

 

[MikeRaw]

I'll hit each of these individually since I have the time right now to do so.

Ok, cool. I'll return the favor. All in good fun, I guess.

MVP's in ring skills are NOT already better than the majority of the main eventers on the E. He still lacks proper execution on grappling, selling his opponents moves properly and getting the crowd on his side (except for that 'balling' thing he does). Being in the ring with someone with the skillset of Regal WILL improve his in ring skills TREMENDOUSLY.

Agreed that it'll improve him. Improvement always helps. But IMO, they're not an issue as it is. IMO, his feud with Benot was when they really, really improved, and I've seen nothing to complain of since. Moveset wise, he's better than most guys. Getting the crowd on his side? Maybe. He has alot of fan support on his side during matches, but probably not title contender level yet. That's why a feud with a guy like Jericho, who I see as a tier 2 main eventer, would help him, more than a tier midcard dude like Regal. Regal will help get him over, but a guy higher than Regal would help get him over more.

Getting him OVER as a FACE is EXACTLY what that mini feud did (which is what I stated in a previous post. That was done SOLELY for the purpose of making it a known FACT that he is a face now. If the E would have continued that feud with Orton, one of 2 things woudl have happened. Either he would have been beaten by Orton (who CANNOT legitimately lose a feud to MVP right now) and he would have been down to midcard or lower status. The crowd still loves Orton whether he is heel or not and MVP would not have gotten a proper rub from that feud right now. The other thing that could have happened is MVP dominating Orton and making Orton look like a fool which then in turn completely shits on the E's push of Orton. Of course with MVP's mic skills he can get the crowd into things but without a proper heel he will end up being corny like Cena is when not with a proper heel (ie; his Swagger promo).

Or you know, we could've had an even feud. Lol. I don't see why it would have to be one way or the other, with domination by one guy.

No, not right now. The guy was just on Smackdown as a HEEL who was inbetween roles. Just throwing him into the ME scene would not make sense, even to the most clueless fans. True fans who watch Raw, SD and ECW would have been like "wtf? why is this guy fighting Orton, who did he beat to get there???"

He's been a face for months now. At least since February, and probably even a bit before.
Anyway, like I said in my last post, although I can understand if you didn't see it when you responded to this, because I added to it just before you posted this, I knew he couldn't stay at the top forever. He couldn't be thrust into a world title match right off the bat. But, I feel the drop from where he was 2 weeks ago to where he is now is too drastic. When they used him for two weeks in a mini-feud against Orton, it solidified him as a very good face. But then, instead of dropping him all the way back to where he was before (midcard), they should've used his momentum to put him in between the midcard and main event. Not on the title level with Orton, Batista, etc, because he couldn't sustain that forever, but they should've used his momentum to put him in the level of the likes of Jericho, Rey, Umaga, etc, instead of all the way down to the midcard again. That would've elevated him. Now, he's just where he was. I guess the main thing to blame though is the draft and the rosters. I don't mean that in a bashigng way of WWE, but if you look at it, on Raw, you have the top flight, tier 1 main event guys, like Cena and Orton and HHH and Batista. Then it drops off to the midcard guys, with nothing in between. They don't have any tier 2 main event guyus like Jericho, Umaga, Punk, Rey, etc that he could feud with, so if he can't be in the legit main event (which he can't yet), he has to go all the way back to the midcard feuds. It's too bad though. If he was on SD, or if a guy of Jericho's level was on Raw, I feel that'd be the perfect level for him to be at, to still improve and all, without being in the actual main event, but still taking a step forward.

 

[Luke Flywalker]

I stopped reading after this, which is sad, really, cause it looked like you may have had some good points. If you're referring to the part about 15 posts ago, where I said 'this will just leave him the same as he is, maybe even set him back further', that was many posts ago, and didn't even say it would definately set him back. As you can see though, I've made about 3 posts since then explaining that I know it won't hurt him, it's more that I was just hopeful after the last little while that he'd finally make the jump out of the midcard now. As for the second par tthat I quoted, no, I'm not ignoring that. This tells me you didn't actually take the effort to read the posts. Try it. You'll see I've said many times that this helps Regal. Here, I'll even show you an example of when I said it, from my previous post...


Seeing as it's too hard to understand, and I've said the same thing in plenty of posts, I can't say it anymore... Just go look at Soulpower's post. That one basically sums up my feelings on this... Here's what SP posted:


Really not hard to grasp.

Dude, read the rest of my post. You're still sitting here arguing about how Regal's going to put on some good matches, but it does nothing for MVP to be in this feud. He's not an established face yet. He's being pushed to be one of the top faces, but he's not even known fully as a face yet. Him being in this feud with Regal, who is an excellent brawler, and a great grappler with some good suplexes, and the WWE uses Regal as a scout of sorts to see how good their "upcoming" talent is in the ring.

MVP's never been a face in the 'E, so he's never taken that part in a feud. This is his stepping stone. He'll be involved afterward but for now, he's having his first face feud to see where he can take his charisma, talent, and appeal to the fans, and if he's REALLY ready to be a part of the ME scene against the company's (arguable) top heel.

You're such an impatient person. You were impatient with Legacy & you're impatient with MVP. Let shit pan out.

 

[MikeRaw]

Dude, read the rest of my post. You're still sitting here arguing about how Regal's going to put on some good matches, but it does nothing for MVP to be in this feud. He's not an established face yet. He's being pushed to be one of the top faces, but he's not even known fully as a face yet. Him being in this feud with Regal, who is an excellent brawler, and a great grappler with some good suplexes, and the WWE uses Regal as a scout of sorts to see how good their "upcoming" talent is in the ring.

MVP's never been a face in the 'E, so he's never taken that part in a feud. This is his stepping stone. He'll be involved afterward but for now, he's having his first face feud to see where he can take his charisma, talent, and appeal to the fans, and if he's REALLY ready to be a part of the ME scene against the company's (arguable) top heel.

You're such an impatient person. You were impatient with Legacy & you're impatient with MVP. Let shit pan out.

No, no, no. I wasn't impatient with Legacy at all. With Legacy, it had nothing to do with patience. Nothing in the slightest. I disagreed with how they were being booked (although I later, as you know, came to like it), but I didn't want anything to be sped up. In fact, if you read some of the threads, guys like noumenon, and others (no offense to any of them) have been sayign Legacy should be ended, because it hasn't gotten the guys over, and how Ted and Cody aren't doing great yet, and I've been the one saying how we shouldn't judge it yet, and I was the one who gave the example that Evolution formed in late 2002, and didn't hit it's stride until mid and fall 2003, so we have to be patient. I suggest you go and read some of the recent threads on the topic. I disagreed with certain things, and thought they could use things such as entrance music for all of them, or maybe matching clothes, but that's nothing to do with being impatient. As far as Legacy, I've been one of the rare ones on the forum who doesn't want it broken up.
As for this, I don't see how having a guy in the midcard for 3 years, and then wanting him to move ever so slightly up is impatient. Again, he doesn't need to move up, and can't move up, to the top of the food chain yet, but a small step up to a guy like Jericho level, and Rey level, would be elevating him.... This, while doing no harm, just keeps him about the same. Again though, I guess there's nothign we can do but just enjoy the feud. I'd have more of a bone to pick with WWE if they had guys like Jericho and Umaga on Raw (tier 2 guys) and MVP was feuding with Regal, instead of them. But on Raw, there's not really any guys bridging the gap between the main event and the midcard, and sice he's not ready for the main event, his only real option is to feud with a guy like Regal. I'll enjoy it, that's for sure, it's just unfortunate that there's no Jericho type guys on Raw he could feud with, which would elevate him, while still letting him grow without going straight to the main event.

 

[LKP]

Mvp vs Regal can be a very good match up at Judgement day for the U.S title. I loved reading all of your thoughts on regal and mvp guys its great reading. It makes mike raw, Sp, airfixx and snacx even better posters than they were. I do think that putting MVP vs regal is a smart move cause Mvp has fought matt hardy so he can't fight him again for the US title. Kendrick isnt really a big enough heel yet or noble. And Chavo/Miz might have got the nod instead of regal but either way regal is doing his job as a mid card heel putting people over. I don't really see what all the fuss of the thread was about the de pushing of regal or mvp. Its a quick feud put together for J.day and makes Mvp the future top tiers guys look good.

 

[Airfixx]

No. Just like Triple H will still be a top guy when he returns, and Cena is when he returns, so will HBK. The difference is, Regal wasn't a huge star right before this feud when he was off TV.

Makes no difference. It's all relative.... As I already said, look no further than the reaction he get's - The guy 'STAYS' over.

He was great in his day, and still is, and I still love pretty much any feud he's in, but he was only a respectable midcarder in say, January, and since his loss to Punk, has been pretty rarely seen, and upon returning, his stock lowered.

According to what criteria exactly?

I really think the whole debate about where in the card Regal stands isn't even really relevant here, considering it was a small sidenote.

That's pretty rich given that your objection to MVP's possible losing to Regal was beneath MVPs current placing in on the proverbial card.

Let's just say he is a midcarder (which I wouldn't overly argue. What I meant by lowcard was low-midcard anyway)

Why did it take you a few posts to slowly realise that what you originally posted wasn't what you actually meant?

...You could have just concurred that i was right to start with.

The whole "where he is on the card" debate has run it's course

When you admit to making an INCORRECT statement in your original post, maybe it will have....

doesn't even really mean anything.

Oh, p-l-e-e-e-a-s-e.... Can I PM you abuse every time that you use the terms "Low", "Mid" or "Upper" Card then?

Bottom line here is you've not been man enough to retract a dumb statement.










As for moving on, feel free, but my opinions on everything else are already stated above.

 

[noumenon]

Soooooo anyway.....
As far as MVP reaching anywhere near the WWE title this year I really can't see it. I'm sure the next few months of the title scene will be dominated by HHH and Batista.
Then don't forget they've got to cycle Cena back into the picture soon....and maybe even Big Show if they decide to do the whole power trip angle with Vicky that they did with Edge.

 

[MikeRaw]

Makes no difference. It's all relative.... As I already said, look no further than the reaction he get's - The guy 'STAYS' over.

According to what criteria exactly?

That's pretty rich given that your objection to MVP's possible losing to Regal was beneath MVPs current placing in on the proverbial card.

Why did it take you a few posts to slowly realise that what you originally posted wasn't what you actually meant?

...You could have just concurred that i was right to start with.

When you admit to making an INCORRECT statement in your original post, maybe it will have....

Oh, p-l-e-e-e-a-s-e.... Can I PM you abuse every time that you use the terms "Low", "Mid" or "Upper" Card then?

Bottom line here is you've not been man enough to retract a dumb statement.

As for moving on, feel free, but my opinions on everything else are already stated above.

Alrighty then. You're right in that Regal is a midcarder. Not that that's a huge victory for you anyway. I saw he's a lowcard-midcard guy, depending where he is at that point in his career. I used the term midcard to describe where I'd say he's been up until this past week. You're right though, he can almost "jump right back in" to where he was before, once he's given a good feud to work with. But ever since his feud with Punk, UNTIL last week, he was being booked as a low card/non-important guy. He only appeared once every couple weeks, and didn't have one consistent feud. I will agree with you though, and give you credit for your point that he is truly a midcarder though.
As for the rest, I've already gone through it tons in the other points. I think you've made it pretty clear you're more than happy for him to remain in the midcard, and I've made it pretty clear that while this feud will likely kick some serious ass, I still think MVP could be on bigger and better things. Example: A feud with a Jericho or Umaga level guy, if they were still on Raw.
I get why he can't though, sadly, because like I said, there's a huge gap in Raw between the top tier guys and midcardes, with no "in between guys" like Jericho, Umaga, and Rey that he could feud with.

On a side note, I'm starting to think you and "RKO Legacy" are the same guy :laugh: The only time i see him on, is when you're on.
Note: Joking

 

[Luke Flywalker]

No, no, no. I wasn't impatient with Legacy at all. With Legacy, it had nothing to do with patience. Nothing in the slightest. I disagreed with how they were being booked (although I later, as you know, came to like it), but I didn't want anything to be sped up. In fact, if you read some of the threads, guys like noumenon, and others (no offense to any of them) have been sayign Legacy should be ended, because it hasn't gotten the guys over, and how Ted and Cody aren't doing great yet, and I've been the one saying how we shouldn't judge it yet, and I was the one who gave the example that Evolution formed in late 2002, and didn't hit it's stride until mid and fall 2003, so we have to be patient. I suggest you go and read some of the recent threads on the topic. I disagreed with certain things, and thought they could use things such as entrance music for all of them, or maybe matching clothes, but that's nothing to do with being impatient. As far as Legacy, I've been one of the rare ones on the forum who doesn't want it broken up.
As for this, I don't see how having a guy in the midcard for 3 years, and then wanting him to move ever so slightly up is impatient. Again, he doesn't need to move up, and can't move up, to the top of the food chain yet, but a small step up to a guy like Jericho level, and Rey level, would be elevating him.... This, while doing no harm, just keeps him about the same. Again though, I guess there's nothign we can do but just enjoy the feud. I'd have more of a bone to pick with WWE if they had guys like Jericho and Umaga on Raw (tier 2 guys) and MVP was feuding with Regal, instead of them. But on Raw, there's not really any guys bridging the gap between the main event and the midcard, and sice he's not ready for the main event, his only real option is to feud with a guy like Regal. I'll enjoy it, that's for sure, it's just unfortunate that there's no Jericho type guys on Raw he could feud with, which would elevate him, while still letting him grow without going straight to the main event.

Dude, you said yourself you weren't happy with the way they were being booked. You're a big Edge fan, right? So I'm sure you appreciate the "pussy" character. Well, in Edge's terms, they're ultimate opportunists. They were getting beat down by guys you, yourself, refer to as the top faces in the WWE. Of course these YOUNG, INEXPERIENCED, UNDER RANDY'S WINGS wrestlers are going to be dominated by an emotionally fueled, already top of the line Triple H. You wanted to see them taking these guys out and standing toe to toe at first.

I realize you've grown to like it now and see what the E has done with them now... but you're ignoring the fact that you had to realize that. You almost didn't want to wait to see that. Sure you were patient about the entire group growing and developing into a superpower (which hopefully the do seeing as they're not there yet), but you weren't patient with the fact that Priceless were being booked as lackeys. If it wasn't you who was saying that, then nevermind.

But you ARE being impatient with MVP. Do you prefer he fights Kendrick? You want him in a match with Carlito who should be defending the UTTC? You want him to fight Matt Hardy while he's doing his cast angle?

Batista is one of those guys over MVP in the main event scene. MVP can't fight HBK to get put over on the card a bit, especially when he's trying to establish his face character, and HBK is out of action indefinitely as far as we know.

He can't fight Cena or Show because they're in their own feud.

They're giving him Regal, who is coming back into the picture to be one of the heels that actually gets heat, and can put on good matches, and brings out the best in a lot of the talent. It'll prove a WHOLE LOT about what MVP can do in a feud, in the ring, with his face character, even promos, and again, transition him into being able to feud with a talent like Randy Orton, and Legacy for that matter. MVP's going to be in some REAL physical shit over the next couple of months, they want to see if he can prove himself in those situations, especially as a face.

 

[MikeRaw]

But you ARE being impatient with MVP. Do you prefer he fights Kendrick? You want him in a match with Carlito who should be defending the UTTC? You want him to fight Matt Hardy while he's doing his cast angle?

No, as I explained, I prefer he fights a small step up from the Regal's of the world, and fight a guy like jericho or Umaga, as I said in the very post you quoted. But as I also said in that same post, obviously that can't happen, so I'm a little pissed that he's stuck in the middle, between the midcard and main event. If he was on SD, he could feud with Jericho type guys, which is a step up, without rushing him, because it wouldn't be THE main event.

Dude, you said yourself you weren't happy with the way they were being booked. You're a big Edge fan, right? So I'm sure you appreciate the "pussy" character. Well, in Edge's terms, they're ultimate opportunists. They were getting beat down by guys you, yourself, refer to as the top faces in the WWE. Of course these YOUNG, INEXPERIENCED, UNDER RANDY'S WINGS wrestlers are going to be dominated by an emotionally fueled, already top of the line Triple H. You wanted to see them taking these guys out and standing toe to toe at first.

I realize you've grown to like it now and see what the E has done with them now... but you're ignoring the fact that you had to realize that. You almost didn't want to wait to see that. Sure you were patient about the entire group growing and developing into a superpower (which hopefully the do seeing as they're not there yet), but you weren't patient with the fact that Priceless were being booked as lackeys. If it wasn't you who was saying that, then nevermind.

Exactly. I said I didn't like how it was being booked. That doesn't mean I was impatient. Impatient would mean i didn't like the way it was being booked, and said they should end it, and forget the whole Legacy thing. That's what others were/are saying. I, on the other hand, disagreed with way they were being book, but also stressed to myself and others that we should wait and see where it goes, and that disbanding Legacy would be the worst mistake WWE can make.

Proof:
http://www.impactwrestling.com/forum/showthread.php?p=444185#post444185

 

[Airfixx]

@ Mike: I think the ideal example of the kinda guy you mean (should he still have been on the roster) would have been JBL, BUT IMO I think peeps could do with being a bit realistic about where MVP is right now too (particularly worth remembering just how shitty a 2008 MVP had in kayfaybe)....

I think last weeks Raw gave us a glimpse of what many of us hoped we'd be seeing of the 'new' Raw from the off; then expecting it to happen. Further more, if it wasn't for last weeks Raw I doubt anyone would have boulked at the idea of an MVP/Regal fued....

Still, I AM really looking forward to it.