Legacy split..kind of.

[noumenon]

Legacy, the faction which took months of teasing and various line up changed to finalize seems as if it's at the end of it's road.
When Legacy first formed most of us were extremely critical of the lack of focus on Ted Dibiasi and Cody Rhodes. They seemed to simply blend into the background and do nothing more than run ins and beat down on Orton's behalf. Either that or they were simply there to take Orton's beatings.
Over the past few months we've seen them run an extremely successful feud with DX and really start to come into their own as competitors and proven that yes...they can cut a promo...and yes, they can really go in the ring. However, through all this it seems that one problem has always been present with Legacy, at least in my mind... they've never truly come across as a team. Dibiasi and Rhodes have barely been seen with Orton over the past few months and honestly have done better without him hovering over their shoulders, yet we're forced to believe he still has some form of hold over them? Hell, Orton won't even come out to the "Legacy" theme music. In fact, when they did enter together, they'd enter to his music.

A few weeks back at Hell In A Cell we saw Ted and Cody snap at Orton and tell him he was just like their fathers. Last night on RAW we saw Cody pin Ted and Ted pin Orton. Obviously they've set forth the seeds for a Legacy split. But my question is this... was there ever really a Legacy stable to begin with? Or did Cody and Ted simply change their tag name from Priceless to Legacy and hang out with Orton for a few months?
I'm not doubting or denying the impact all of this has had on their young careers, but am I the only one who feels like Legacy was never really a unit?

 

[Great One]

Don't forget Orton isn't even billed apart of Legacy. When Orton came out with Rhodes/Dibiase for the tag match a couple weeks ago they were billed as "Randy Orton with Legacy" lmao. So yes, they simply changed their name to Legacy and adapted a bad ass theme song. Props to them/WWE. At least Cody has a theme song to use now and Dibiase can use the Priceless one when they eventually move on..

 

[noumenon]

Orton has a little Legacy crest on the sleeves of his merch, that's about as far as they took it.

 

[JurassicBonez]

Two main things I hated about what they did with Legacy.
1. They competely shit on Rhodes and Dibiase for way too long. They were nothing but Orton's lackies. They had no character at all, but were trying to make the group as a whole seem vicious. You can't portray a group of 3 guys like they're untouchable badass' when 2 of the 3 guys get the shit beat out of them all the time.

2. Their way of "teasing" tention between the group like it's a big thing. News Flash: Tention in a group means nothing when there was tention since the beginning!! They've been teasing tention for so long with these guys that it's not that big. When rumours of a 2nd + gen. stable was in the works, I loved the idea. When it started coming in, I loved that Orton was the leader. But this whole thing was a big let down.

Priceless were way more successful than Legacy. They were 2 time tag champs. How many titles have they won being a part of Legacy? They beat Cena and Tista for the tag titles. One of the 2 (I don't remember which) was the World champ. A pin-fall victory over 2 RAW's top stars at the time while one was world champ for a title, that's pretty big. Who have they beat big in Legacy? DX? Made HBK tap? Whoa!! Huge let down this stable turned out to be.

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

Actually, if you are going with how big a win is, their victory over DX is way more important.

(they beat John Cena and Batista, while none of them being the champion, the champ was CM Punk, and because of tension between the two)

 

[Dynamo]

You know what, I think they have played the legacy thing beautifully. I had my reservations when they didn't capitalise on the guest host thing when their dads did it, but now I think the whole thing is much more believable.

I think in the beggining, to me, it came across as though Orton sort of recruited these guys, so they were there to be the whipping boys to a certain extent. They accepted that. As for the tention thing. I disagree, tension from the beggining, does mean something. What it highlights is that it's little things that happen over a period of time which ultimately effects relationships. Isn't that the way it happens in real life. U know when u first meet some one, it aint till months even years later that u realise u hate the fact that they breath to loudly? Why wouldn't they do it like that. Better that, than a sudden U-Turn and massive break up when the WWE think its run its course. I prefer this idea of little tensions amassing and reaching breaking point.

I think its also good, how this is more of a business agreement, rather than a traditional stable. Stables are often established through friendships and rivalries, where as this is purely to further the careers of Ted and Cody and benefit Orton in the process. Thats the basis for them being together, so in a traditional sense in answer to noumenon' question, I guess not. Its almost a small organisation, with Orton the director. N I also like the way that u know they are going to break up, because at some stage, they will no longer 'need' Orton, which was essentially part of the deal.

For me, the whole legacy thing is a real shining light of what pro wrestling should be about. History, story/interest, realism/Kayfabe and of course real wrestling ability.

I find mysef constantly moaning about the product nowadays and how it should be, well I really think this time, so far at least, they got it right.

 

[Dylanfsd]

Maybe Legacy should just split from Orton, and we could have the whole "I made you who you are" type thing going on. I always thought they were holding Orton back, tbh.

 

[noumenon]

First of all... it's TENSION*******

Secondly, ^^ Obviously that's where they're going to go with the whole break up angle. Where else could they possibly go?

And yeah, I'd say although they have really done nothing besides their feud with DX since being in Legacy, it definitely means more than the tag titles. Let's face it, defeating a team comprised of two guys of near legend stature who dominate the tag division whenever they're inserted over defeating an arguing Cena/Batista? Yeah I'd say that's more important.

 

[Double J]

Personally I would of liked Legacy better if they had kept Snuka and Manu in group...Or at least Snuka...

Would of been really awesome is they had left Snuka in Legacy, brought in Teddy Hart and Brett Hart and have a Hart Dynasty vs Legacy Feud where Brett is telling Orton that he's not training the next generation right or something to effect to where it still keeps the younger guys in the main event status.

But this is coming from the guy who likes the whole big themed factions.

 

[noumenon]

Yeah definitely. It's more of a small alliance than a stable. Even though I think Cody and Ted would have been the top priority regardless, who knows...Manu and Sim could have made names for themselves. But alas, Manu was pudgy and Sim dropped Taker.

 

[Great One]

Sim dropped Taker.. what?

 

[noumenon]

HBK/Taker at Mania...
When Taker did the suicide dive over the top rope and landed on his head and looked like he killed himself. The "camera man" who was supposed to catch him was Sim.

 

[Great One]

I knew it was him, but he was suppose to catch him? Lmao. Where was this said? Did he seriously get released for that? That's the funniest shit ever.

 

[noumenon]

Well he certainly wasn't supposed to let him land on his fucking head.

 

[MizMasta3000]

IMO, I don't think WWE really knew what they had when Legacy was at its peak. So many oppertunities for C and T to branch out against Orton were there. It has been a real sloppy job. Alot of things that occured were pointless(Random Brett Dibiase interference at SS) becaus it had happened too soon for the WWE to grasp .We all have seen this team grow in many ways. C and T developed mic skills and are much better in the ring. It hasn't been a full year yet so the split seeds may be planting too soon but theres no real going back now. Legacy needs to be remembered. As for as Orton goes: think about NAO in DX era. They had their own feuds but always came back to HHH when shit hit the fan. I dont really see Cody and Ted splitting as much as them from orton. I see this:

Orton beats Cena at bragging rights
Cena is gone, DX is with Jeri-Show so Orton needs a new competitor
Teddy Boy steps up with Cody at his side
Ted racks up wins to get contendership
cody goes on losing streak
cody gets jealous of teddy and turns on him
cody explains to orton that he does want anything to do with either of them
Ted and Orton have a match on Raw
Cody interferes and attacks both of them
Cody v Ted v Orton Survivor Series for WWE Title

PS: Since Airfixx will prolly be an asshole and make fun of this reply i will go ahead and say fk u in advance