Live Survivor Series WARGAMES Discussion Thread - Saturday November 30th 2024

[Dale]

Saturday November 30th
6PM ET, 11PM GMT
Rogers Arena, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

CONFIRMED CARD

MENS 5ON5 WARGAMES MATCH
Roman Reigns, Jimmy Uso, Jey Uso, Sami Zayn & CM Punk
vs.
Solo Sikoa, Jacob Fatu, Tonga Loa, Tama Tonga & Bronson Reed

WOMENS 5ON5 WARGAMES MATCH
Liv Morgan, Nia Jaxx, Tiffany Stratton, Raquel Rodriguez & Candice LeRae
vs.
Bianca Belair, Jade Cargill, Rhea Ripley, Iyo Sky & Naomi

WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP
Gunther (c) vs. Damian Priest

WWE INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP - TRIPLE THREAT
Sheamus vs. Bron Breakker (c) vs. Ludwig Kaiser

WWE UNITED STATES CHAMPIONSHIP
LA Knight (c) vs. Shinsuke Nakamura​

 

[Dale]

When asked if he thought the current version of The Bloodline would beat Roman Reigns and The Usos at WWE Crown Jewel, the master of the “Stink-Face” admitted he did not.

“No, I had no idea,” Rikishi said. “I didn’t think either or team was gonna win. I would have probably thought it would have been a DQ. For me, that angle is so beyond that you can get away with going two-three years with that angle added on to what they’ve already done. I don’t ever see a finish until it’s some type of big gimmick match like a Hell in a Cell, maybe three cages, three rings, like give them something that people have never, ever seen before. That’s what the Bloodline is because that’s what they’re doing out there. They’re giving the wrestling fans something that they’ve never seen amongst each other, and the fans are invested into the Bloodline.”

The former Too Cool member continued, “So let’s go ahead and up it. Why don’t we call a different type of, make up a pay-per-view name for the Bloodline to be able to have their own type of signature match, like Hell in a Cell. Let’s put three rings together. Let’s build a certain type of dome for three rings, and then you think about, you got all that talent there. You got The Usos, you got Jacob Fatu, you got the Tongan Usos that are there, Roman, come on now. There’s so much that those boys can do with a gimmick type of match like that. It’ll be a treat and a sight for the world and the wrestling fans to be able to see.”​

Get off the grill bro, you aint cookin' with this one ​

 

[Cwalker]

“Let’s build a dome for 3 rings”

Come on now, Kish!

 

[Chris]

 

[Tommy MBE]

Get off the grill bro, you aint cookin' with this one ​

Big Kishi keepin' it 100. Gotta like the stay in Kayfabe mode.

 

[Tommy MBE]

Priest seems to be cooking recently. It's like since he lost the belt he's had a mountain lifted and can be himself. I'm enjoying his run recently, last night was great but not at making Gunther look like a Coward heel, he's always stood his ground . He's been getting acting lessons as he actually looked scared and that's not easy to do in that kind of setting I reckon. I think this will be the best of the the matches they've had.

It's got to knocked Gunthers confidence though knowing he's not No1 guy yet. If I'm wrong I'm wrong but even without the belt Roman is still No1 guy, Cody 2 , Gunther 3, Orton 4, Priest 5.

Anyone else got a top five in the order of WWE stars at the minute.

 

[Tommy MBE]

“Let’s build a dome for 3 rings”

Come on now, Kish!

I remember before Jey won the IC he was on his podcast and moaning said Jey was killing it we knew that and then finally the backstage listened . For being in a tag team even more with your twin having that single title win . Will be Jey's way of saying but big brother you ain't won one I have . YEET.

I like Jey he's the funnier Uso and better wrestler but Jimmy's good as well he does the best out the pair for the finisher from the top.

 

[Chris]

 

[Dale]

Roman Reigns, Sami Zayn, The Usos & a fifth member vs. Solo Sikoa, Jacob Fatu, Tama Tonga, Tonga Loa & a fifth member (WarGames Match)​

WarGames returns to Survivor Series as the original Bloodline of Roman Reigns, Sami Zayn, Jey Uso, Jimmy Uso plus a fifth member join forces against the new Bloodline of Solo Sikoa, Jacob Fatu, Tama Tonga, Tonga Loa plus a fifth member.

The OTC made his triumphant return at SummerSlam to wage war on the new regime and attempt to reestablish control of The Bloodline. However, the sinister trio of Sikoa, Fatu and Tonga overcame The OTC and a reunited Jey and Jimmy Uso in a Six-Man Tag Team Match at WWE Crown Jewel.

After the showdown, several tumultuous encounters between the two factions soon led to Zayn realigning himself with Reigns and The Usos to reform The Original Bloodline. Together, they look to finally topple Sikoa and his cold-blooded comrades.

Adding to the intrigue is the ongoing search that each team is conducting to find a fifth member.

In a WarGames Match, two rings are surrounded by a steel cage. The matchup begins with a member from each team battling one-on-one. After five minutes, a Superstar will enter from one of the two teams. Every two minutes after that, another competitor enters, and the teams alternate until everyone enters. Due to the match not having disqualifications, competitors can bring weapons as they step into the fray. The WarGames Match officially starts when all the participants have joined. After that, the chaos continues until one team emerges victorious by pinfall or submission.
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World Heavyweight Champion Gunther vs. Damian Priest​

At Survivor Series: WarGames, Gunther will defend his World Heavyweight Championship against former titleholder Damian Priest.

Gunther enjoyed a record 666-day reign as Intercontinental Champion, won the 2024 King of The Ring, and further established himself as one of WWE's most dominant Superstars when he claimed the World Heavyweight Title from Priest at SummerSlam.

That victory, however, occurred when Finn Bálor rocked The Biggest Event of the Summer by betraying Priest and helping The Ring General steal the gold from The Archery of Infamy.

Despite his ongoing issues with The Judgment Day, Priest emerged victorious in a Fatal 4-Way Match against Seth "Freakin" Rollins, Sheamus and Dominik Mysterio to earn the right to challenge the World Heavyweight Champion at WWE's Fall Classic.​

 

[Dale]

I really don't understand why they're forcing that match into a 5v5 when it's literally perfect as it was?

 

[Butters]

I really don't understand why they're forcing that match into a 5v5 when it's literally perfect as it was?

My guess was neither team will find a 5th man so they’ll do 4v4

 

[Chris]

My theory last night that I really liked was the work Bron into the match since they had that slight tease of him having issues with Solo/Fatu and also his history with Jey and Sami. But after reading the spoilers, we basically know who the final 2 are and it's not Bron so while I will say it's better than most other options, I was expecting still, it's not better than 4v4 would have been

 

[Dale]

My guess was neither team will find a 5th man so they’ll do 4v4

But still...why? They've done a Womens WarGames 4v4 before so there's nothing saying it HAS to be 5v5

 

[Butters]

I assumed it was just to tease sami joining solo even tho they stopped that mere minutes after

 

[Comrade Khan]

wargames is pretty much becoming HIAC ppv and pretty forced when it doesn't need to be - this is an opinion I've seen a floating a lot today

Hunter basically cried that HIAC and Survivors Series was dumb to force but then just replaced it with yearly wargames