Your Abandoned Projects & Ideas You Would Love to Book One Day (In a Perfect World)

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So the point of this thread is very simple – what are projects of yours that you have abandoned over time, and wish in a perfect world, you re-visited/finished the story? Or projects you have always wanted to do and have just never actually created? By all means feel free to share your stories about these abandoned/desired BTBs! Comment on others’ posts as well! Just something for us all to commiserate and wish on!

For me, there’s plenty!

When An Empire Falls (WCW 99) – A WCW story!? And in 99 at that!? Oh real original Szum! I don’t know if it’s actually true because I haven’t looked back at it in years, but I think this might still be my best booking I’ve ever done. This ran from Fall Brawl 99 and I think went on hiatus shortly after Souled Out 2000. Essentially instead of Vince Russo/Ed Ferrera coming in, it’s being booked by someone that was never actually revealed in the project, with the character booking WCW writing a bunch of first-hand accounts throughout the project. The key story was sticking with Sting’s heel turn that took place at Fall Brawl, and having him spend the next 3 months in silence, mirroring what happened to Sting after the nWo first debuted, and then breaking his silence the night after Starrcade. Other key stories – Bret Hart trying to finally be the force he knows he should’ve been in The WCW, his progression to The White Knight that the company needs; The Revolution looking to finally break through the glass ceiling by any means necessary, especially by targeting the faces of WCW like Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan; the slow build-up to Goldberg vs Sid; Ernest ‘The Cat’ Miller being a wonderful midcard heel with his Kitty-Me (Mini Me rip off) and William Regal doing a whole ass Austin Powers gimmick; and Van Hammer getting an American makeover and having a ridiculous tag team with Jim Duggan. Gotta have the WrestleCrap in 99 folks!

The Trio Ownership (WCW 01-02) – I like WCW, what can I say? In reality I really should have just ended the BTB with WCW still folding at the end of SuperBrawl 2002, as initially intended. Instead, I was a dumbass, changed the ending to have WCW surviving post Nitro cancellation, and crafting another return of WCW three months later in May 2002, just with no Ric Flair as part of the ownership, Hogan/Hall/Nash pitching in to help keep WCW afloat, and a more streamlined roster in the post nWo era. I don’t know if I ever even released any of the shows for the second chapter of TTO. Unfortunate to have made the decisions made here and not actually stick with the second chapter of the saga. Alas! It would’ve finally seen Sean O’Haire get the pushed he 100% should’ve had a long time prior, and also Vader, a whole lot of Vader.

Who Dun It? – WWF 2000 is a lot of fun, but a lot of work! This kicked off from Summerslam 2000, with the pending return of Stone Cold Steve Austin at Unforgiven. The Who Dun It storyline really kicks into gear from there, as Austin tries to find out who almost ended his career. It all culminates at No Mercy…and I think I only wrote two to six more shows after the big reveal! The No Mercy reveal was a real curveball, but also one no one should be surprised about, knowing me and my BTB history! Also featuring – Stephanie McMahon leaving Triple H for Kurt Angle after a callback to Summerslam 99 w/a Love Her Or Leave Her Match; The Rock cementing his place as WWF Champion; and of course WrestleCrap nonsense like Mick Foley’s soft feud with Edge & Christian culminating in E&C doing a 3 Faces of Foley series of matches of Foley picking each team that best personifies Mankind, Cactus Jack, and Dude Love; and one of my favorite silly midcard storylines of Steven Richards’ Right To Censor’s ace for stable being Mr. Class, aka the now former Mr. Ass, Billy Gunn.

ECW vs. N.I.T.RO. (ECW 2001) – This is a far fetched one, to say the least. Former wrestler, unknown to readers, helps keep ECW afloat, and the company gets a lifeline post Guilty as Charged 01 in the form of a new TV Deal with USA. Crux of this project was a whole different Invasion than 2001 saw in reality – this was the Now Introducing, Turner Rasslin Organization invading ECW! WWF buys WCW, but we get a slew of WCW cast offs jumping ship to ECW to invade the company and try to take it over to keep the WCW spirit alive. It starts with Mike Awesome as the ace, and goes all the way to Tony Schiavone, greatest heel in ECW history (well, better than bitch ass Bubba Ray at least).

Ring of Hogan – Bischoff and Hogan start a promotion in 2001 after Hogan is thrown out of WCW. It is meant to be an absolutely terrible promotion the vast majority of the time, while mixing in as many music and Hollywood crossovers as possible because, Bischoff (and Jason Hervey). We’re talking That 70s Show appearing and having a soft feud with a tag team, all of Hogan’s Friends getting signature TV time, Nasty Boys mega push, absolutely terrible nWo rip off as well. There’s so much more terrible WrestleCrap I could’ve done.


I feel like I pretty much only have one major idea that I never did, that I would like to do, and even that is a spin-off!

The Trio Ownership – Multiverse (WCW 2001) – Essentially TTO w/Bischoff and Fusient Media, and a universe where WCW does indeed survive, but they are scaled down heavily in terms of expectations and roster. TV deal on FX instead of a bigger cable network, almost all of the stars of WCW are gone (core would probably be Booker T, Scott Steiner, Sting, and possibly DDP of the stars remaining in WCW at the end). Would see WCW forced to elevate a lot of other talent, including Mike Awesome, Lance Storm, Chris Kanyon, Sean O’Haire and other NBT alums, a returning Vader for one last run, and most of all, Bob Sapp getting a monster debut and run like almost could’ve happened!

What are your projects you would love to revisit or one day create!? I look forward to seeing yours and giving thoughts on some of it!
 
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I was booking a ROH one where I slowly overtime built it up to surpass the WWE. Stole a lot of talent from them even. I had Austin Theory as the face of the company. He was on a run that is basically the run Athena is on now. Though he wasn't heel the whole run, he was face as it went on. When my laptop at the time died, I lost the TEW file this was all taking place on, so I never got to book the ending of the reign. It was going to see Joe Anoaʻi debut and win the title from him. I never mapped out what I was going to do with that reign, but I'm sure I would have thought of something.
 

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Scanning through old folders and notebooks definitely gave me a nostalgia trip for this. Thanks for the idea, Szumi, as I think this could allow a lot of guys to possibly give an old project another shot after typing it out and re-thinking about it. I have a shit load, but wanted to list at least some of the main ones that actually had words written out at some point:

WCW- The New Generation
Starting point is June of 1991. Ric Flair gets convinced to stay for GAB and drops the title to Luger before heading off. The whole premise of this would be that the majority of New Gen/early Attitude guys were in WCW at this time-Razor, Diesel, Owen (albeit very brief) Foley, Doink, Austin, etc... The goal would be to create the New Generation but inside WCW and with different gimmicks. I went pretty far planning with this one, and still randomly think about it from time to time.

ROH- The Great Gamble
Starting point is post DBD Cage of Death July 2006 with a different ending. Paul Heyman exits WWE a bit earlier than in real life and shows up as the new ROH President. Behind the scenes he buys the company from Cary Silkin and keeps Gabe Sapolsky on the creative team. From there, we get an online TV show every week, and an FX deal that shows 1 or 2 specials every month. Things will all lead to the first ever ROH PPV in mid-2007. I almost posted this on WC, and got as far as dropping "hint" posts in the Advertisement Thread. Had a goal of bringing in some big names, with the ultimate reveal being JBL was the man truly funding ROH because Heyman was broke. Was going to have different cross-overs with TNA and smaller WWE names on loan.

WWE- The Road to Immortality/The Immortal Timeline
Starting point is post WM22 in April of 2006. Some of you may remember both variations of this that I've posted on here. This project is like the girl that got away from me. I still think about booking things out for this project more than I should. Would love to get all the way to WM23 with this, because I think it could be my favorite show I've ever planned out. Won't divulge too much into booking plans because this one still may see the light of day down the road. Really fun to plan out. Have a pretty cool idea for WM23, too.

Any variation of WCW 2000

Was able to get "The Millennium Project" up and running two years ago, and got through the first 3 months of 2000. This time period is always a soft spot for me. I don't think about these WCW projects unless I dive into my collection of WCW magazines (I have every single one from 1999 up until the last one printed in 2001 with "The Big Bang" poster on the back cover.) I can see why everyone got fired from booking this shit in real life. What a train wreck to sort through.

WCW 2001- Money. Power. Respect.
Set in April 2001. Shane buys WCW and they get their own brand, shows, roster. Essentially autonomous from WWF, other than guys that weren't being used would come in and spruce up the roster. The big hook would be HBK returning to the ring. Never fully planned this one out, but the ideas I had for this were fun.

Battle Pro Wrestling
I posted the Mid 90's version of this fever dream Indy promotion that was a spinoff to my original WWF on WC. Paul Heyman breaks away from ECW, starts his own promotion. I pushed Mike Awesome to the moon. Had a lot of fun storylines planned out. This was so open-ended that it allowed me to literally think of any bat shit idea or storyline I wanted because there were no guard rails on this one. "Krush...with a fucking K!" might have been my favorite story- Crush can't wrestle because he cashes in a Lloyds of London insurance policy. Instead, he plays the 911 of ECW. Anytime there is a boring match or somebody needs to get beat up, "Money for Nothing" plays and Krush emerges through the crowd to take out the trash. Even had the fans interaction being if they got bored with a match they'd start counting down from 10, which would trigger a Krush appearance. Fun fact, a lot of the show names for this project were recycled for my NWATNA project. Figured I'd put them to good use. Would love to follow through on this one day.

So, there is a few of them. Feel free to steal my templates for these if they intrigue you.
 
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AEW after All In 2024: So this is one I have toyed with doing a few times and might still do some day. Main ideas for the thread was to book the final days for Bryan Danielson and instead of Mox being the one to end his reign, it would be Hangman Adam Page. I felt the heel persona of Hangman was underused and whilst the end of the death riders story was great, a lot of it did not work for me. Would likely lead to Hangman vs Omega or Ospreay at the All In 2025 . Also another goal would have been to improve the Women's division in general and give it more time
 

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Man that Empire Falls BTB was my shit I fucking LOVED it especially the Sting/Flair retirement feud.

My WWE 2022 BTB is one for me, an alternate universe with not Roman didn't get sick before Day 1 and they went through with the match. The first part of the BTB would be very part-timer heavy with Goldberg replacing Cody since in this universe, re-signs with AEW. Rock returns and wins the Rumble and wins the Universal Title against Roman, Austin and Kevin Owens has a more serious tone with Mania 38 ending with him destroying Stone Cold in the main event. Jon Moxley returns in the summer due to him working without a contract at the time while he's interim AEW Champion and gets the Cody push, him, Rollins and Reigns getting a REAL Shield Triple Threat at Mania 39. Big E never gets hurt and becomes THE guy on Raw mainly feuding with Edge from Judgement Day. Elias forms his own band with a returning Singh Brothers with T-BAR their bouncer and Tyler Bate being a obsessed superfan with Elias taking advantage of this by being a kind of inept tag parter who slowly becomes real friends. Its cute. Main reason it failed was basically writing the rumbles were a REAL pain and the monthly builds I had done were taking forever for me to write.
 
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I definitely have a bunch of these and I'm not sure how well I remember what my plans were for any of them BUT...

WWE: The Power Struggle: I think this is one of my first ever BTBs that originated back in 2003. Like most of my BTBs (or as we called them on EWB where I posted most of my stuff before joining WrestlingClique, diaries), I was utilizing EWR to book everything. This one was a mixture of on screen booking of WWE in 2003 but also a backstage power struggle (hey, that explains the name) after Vince McMahon was left comatose after a car accident which also included some mystery aspects to it as perhaps the car accident wasn't an accident at all! I believe some of the off screen story was inspired by one of my favorite BTBs of all time, which was called LAW (a backyard to global story that is perhaps the best project I've ever read when it comes to the off screen storylines).

TNA From the Beginning: Well this one is pretty self explanatory. It was TNA... from the beginning! Started off with Scott Hall winning the NWA World Title on the first episode, Shane Douglas was the authority figure, and York & Matthews of all people were the first NWA tag champs under the TNA umbrella. Looks like I made it 9 episodes before it died off so we never got to the four way match between Scott Hall, Jeff Jarrett, Ken Shamrock, and Malice for the NWA Title. Your guess is as good as mine who was going to win but let's just say Malice was going to win.

The War for WCW - Much like Szumi, I think my strong suite has always been booking WCW so I usually found myself doing WCW projects. This one was pretty straight forward, it was 1997 BTB during the nWo vs. WCW saga. Pretty short lived, only made it through Souled Out in January before it trickled off but I think it was a bit of a prelude before my Holding out for a Hero BTB that is one of my favorites and perhaps best.

Walking in Memphis - This one was a little different. In 2008, over at EWB there was a craze that centered around an EWR mod called iDom which was basically an alternate reality where WWF failed after WrestleMania I was a failure and the territory model never died. A lot of iDom based projects popped up around this time and I joined in, tackling the Memphis territory featuring names like Jerry Lawler, Brian Lawler, Jeff Jarrett, Mable, and more. I had a lot of fun with this one while it lasted. I spent a lot of time coming up with a detailed background with title history, top moments in Memphis Championship Wrestling history.

Great Moments in Wrestling History - This was more of an idea than a BTB although I did do one show, lol. The idea was basically what if moments in American history took place in the wrestling ring... Yep. So like Season 1 was going to be centered around the American Revolution as Colonial Wrestling Association was looking to break free from the British Wrestling Empire. The first episode featured future wrestling legends like Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and of course George Washington. I think if I remember correctly I tried to also base each historic figure on an actual wrestler... though the only one I really remember was that the tag team of Ethan Allen and Ira Allen, the Green Mountain Boys, were basically the Dudley Boyz.

WCW: The Power Plant - Ok, this one I was really excited about and I sometimes find myself tempted to go back to it. This was basically my attempt of creating NXT for WCW utilizing the WCW Power Plant as a developmental and not just a training facility. The year was 2000 and so the roster consisted of folks like Mark Jindrak, Sean O'Haire, Kid Romeo, Chuck Palumbo, Elix Skipper, Mike Sanders, Jamie Noble, etc while the plan was also to have occassional "main roster" talent show up. Like the first episode featured Terry Funk, Hugh Morrus, and 3 Count. This sadly only lasted 2 episodes.

WWE Influencers (Where Money Talks): This idea came about at the beginning of the Saudi deal with WWE and the concept of the BTB was that WWE is going to just do whatever people with a lot of money tell them to do. So I asked for a few people to sign up to be "Influencers" of the BTB and I gave them a bankroll of $100M to start with and then they could use that money to influence decisions I made in the BTB. I still think this is a fun idea... but I quickly realized that I just cannot book modern day WWE and had no interest in doing so, lol. Fun idea but I just am not the person to pull it if off if its WWE based.
 

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I haven't had to many ideas that I haven't tried honestly. The one that stands out was untitled but was basically The Kliq in 2002 starting their own company. H is rehabbing his quad and whilst Stephanie is on the road playing Alliance owner, he gets busted having an affair. He gets exiled from the WWE. In 2002, Michaels is ready to come back, Nash and Hall return to WWE and fail, and X Pac gets X Pac heat. They then create their own company.

I honestly can't remember who was going to help them with finances. I do know there would be behind the scenes bookers meeting segments which would just be The Kliq making fun of wrestlers on their roster. Oh and because they're hilarious and awesome, they would use PPV concepts for bi monthly specials like Royal Rumble, King Of The Ring, Survivor Series but just give them slightly different names.

I don't have the plans for this anymore, so this is about all I can remember.
 

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The Gorilla Position (WWE 2006) - A really cheap pick, all things considered. The original namesake for the current thread that I’m doing. I had previously written 4-5 weeks of television on the old WC site, and the Royal Rumble pay-per-view. I do think the second volume has exceeded the original at this point. It had a lot of fun ideas, including a MITB cash-in that I thought was highly unique. It saw Edge cash-in at the Royal Rumble against Batista (who never got hurt in this universe), and in doing so, he became ineligible to enter the Royal Rumble. This tied into a storyline on Raw where John Cena had been branded an enemy of the McMahon family and needed someone to surrender their spot in the Rumble for him to enter as a participant. Weeks of TV time were devoted to him trying to get a spot, but in the end, it was Edge cashing in to win the World Title that allowed him to enter. I had an angle where Nick Dinsmore turned on Rey Mysterio, while still in his Eugene character, but then became an old school Nick Bockwinkel style character who wanted to unmask luchadores. He claimed he wore a mask much like the luchadores, and the greatest thing he ever did was remove it and reveal his true self. Randy Orton had a fun storyline with issues against Theodore Long. It was going to result in Orton winning MITB, King of the Ring and the WWE Championship in the same year.

Death of the New World Order (WCW 98/99) - I would’ve considered this my most successful thread until GPV2. It had, if memory serves me correctly, four pay-per-view events and weekly TV in full across the lot. It began the night of Starrcade, and I completely redid the card. The main event was Goldberg defending the WCW Title against Kevin Nash and Bam Bam. New World Order members were banned from ringside, having reformed before the show with Nash at the forefront alongside Hulk Hogan. What happened was that Randy Savage returned to WCW, and he screwed Goldberg, and joined the nWo afterwards - classic nonsense. You then had what was to be an epic months-long story of Goldberg making his way through the nWo until he won the title back. Goldberg was a lone wolf and had a great five-week feud with DDP. I still think this is either the best or second-best feud I ever wrote. It was based around Goldberg believing he was the only man who could beat the nWo, and everyone else was just in his way or would slow him down. He refused to make saves on Nitro, which caused DDP to get hurt ahead of a title match. DDP would lose, and in his frustration, he cost Goldberg a cage match against Savage, which meant Goldberg was out of the title picture for the foreseeable future.

Other highlights included Bret Hart vs. Booker T for the US Title with Hart as a heel. Chris Jericho pinning Hulk Hogan on pay-per-view as one of the bright new stars of WCW. Dean Malenko became a vicious shooter character and snapped Billy Kidman’s ACL on a ladder. Kevin Nash also became the President of WCW while reigning as World Champ. The original angle was supposed to end after WCW vs. nWo in War Games when Goldberg finally accepted that he couldn’t do it alone and needed help, bringing his arc full circle. After that match, Sting was going to return, having never been in the thread, and destroy the members of team WCW. The problem was I rushed that bit and had Sting return as a face months earlier, and kill off what would’ve been the new big story arc - something I regretted immediately.

Rise & Fall of the Main Event Mafia (TNA 08/09) - I’ve got this outlined in a Word document somewhere on my computer. Really basic concept that I would like to get to one day. It’s a one-year story arc with a clear beginning and a set endpoint. Bound For Glory ‘08 until Bound For Glory ‘09, 52 weeks of TNA television telling the story of how the Main Event Mafia begins, gains power, holds it and then the destruction of the group. We’re keeping everyone as heels - Sting doesn’t get to be a face halfway through the angle or anything like that. Samoa Joe would be in the role somewhat akin to Sting’s role in WCW. As the World Champ who was defeated by the MEM, he would run solo in trying to get his belt back. Feeling that nobody came to his aid when he was getting stuck by the numbers game, he would refuse to assist the other members of the TNA roster when the Mafia spread to other titles and targets. Ultimately, AJ Styles would rally the troops and be the big-time babyface standing up for TNA against the MEM. We’d run TNA versus MEM at Lockdown and pull the CZW/ROH spot where Joe earns team TNA the advantage, and then tells them to stick it by walking out on them. Joe goes heel, not as a member of the Mafia, but as a selfish guy who can’t see the forest through the trees. Truly cutting his nose to spite his face. It would culminate in BFG ‘09 where AJ Styles has reclaimed the TNA World Title and defends it against a now-hated Samoa Joe in the main event, twelve months on from when he lost it as a babyface. Joe, not being the one to take the title from the Mafia, would further drive him to the edge of sanity until he chokes AJ out on impact, refusing to let go as he screams that he should’ve been the one, not AJ.
 
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My WWE WISG stands out to me. It was my longest-written BTB I ever produced, from November 2015 to September 2018. I really made that universe my own by that point and had written Edge's return into the booker before he ever came back (I did it after he speared Elias irl).

I also had a TNA booker in the same universe that was fun to book. The wrestlers I couldn't fit into the WWE booker, I would book them separately into TNA and had fun with this dynamic.

I booked myself into a small corner by trying to ramp Payback up in an attempt to catch up to 2019 due to a busy season of my life. If I could, I'd find a way to go back and rewrite so that I can seamlessly cover what happened on the Raw and SmackDowns prior to continuing.
 

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I haven't had to many ideas that I haven't tried honestly. The one that stands out was untitled but was basically The Kliq in 2002 starting their own company. H is rehabbing his quad and whilst Stephanie is on the road playing Alliance owner, he gets busted having an affair. He gets exiled from the WWE. In 2002, Michaels is ready to come back, Nash and Hall return to WWE and fail, and X Pac gets X Pac heat. They then create their own company.

I honestly can't remember who was going to help them with finances. I do know there would be behind the scenes bookers meeting segments which would just be The Kliq making fun of wrestlers on their roster. Oh and because they're hilarious and awesome, they would use PPV concepts for bi monthly specials like Royal Rumble, King Of The Ring, Survivor Series but just give them slightly different names.

I don't have the plans for this anymore, so this is about all I can remember.

This sounds awful. Get writing right now.
 
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